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2101  MEGAMI TENSEI™ Uncensored / Velvet Room / Re: Persona 3 Undubbed on: September 03, 2007, 04:13:56 AM
Well, I couldn't say about the connection to fascist creep, other than a Colbert Report esque rejection of all things bookish, also the theme of Bradberry's fascist distopia Farenheit 451. Its a long reach read axeman

If you are a US American, taken in by its compulsory educational standards. And you are unable to read and enjoy subtitles, then your time indoors probably has been somewhat squandered by the state.

I think the dilemma most likely, is once you compromise the integrity of a work of art, it becomes increasingly commodified. Its one thing to second guess the allegiances of the original artists, but by the time a second party like a localization operation comes into the mix, it is clearly a defacement of artistic integrity.

Before I really didn't comprehend the circumstances. I'd assumed being a late cycle title the DVD was probably too packed to fit the original audio tracks in. But apparently they are in there and there is plenty DVD to spare. So it does seem somewhat senseless to not have provided the option. On the other hand, maybe that would've meant paying extra royalties to the original voice talents.

It is actually strange the original audio track remained in the final pressing.

Personally I prefer dubbing in many casual circumstances where my attention is too divided for complete devotion to the screen. Especially foreign documentaries. I generaly prefer foreign lanuage voice tracks, because it's less obvious just how badddd the performance actually is. I would probably prefer many english movies dubbed into martian myself :lurk:

Not to mention, games are notoriously just as bad in the writing department. I also prefer reading a language I can barely understand! I don't think P3 is worth splitting hairs over though. I've heard more complaints about the laughable BGM. I've been told its easier to play muted regardless of the region of your disc. The game looks pretty slick however. I'll admit I'm mildly interested in it. Might try to play that torrent, and import the game if I find myself enjoying it. I'm not sure how other than emulation though, and my best pc wouldn't cut it. I guess I should dl it before the seeds die out.

Btw, why can't people just write Festival rather than FES?
2102  MEGAMI TENSEI™ Uncensored / Velvet Room / Re: Persona 3 Undubbed on: September 02, 2007, 04:43:01 AM
Ah now I'm nostalgic for the oldschool mentality, when anime actually was art, and dubbing was inconceivably blasphemous, and subtitles were accompanied by copious liner notes outlining and explaining all of the nuiances suddlely lost in translation.

On the other hand watching something dubbed on the television surely beats shilling out thousands of dollars on serial anime cassettes. Well, if only adopted content had any merit to begin with anymore.

Wait a few years. Someone will create a translation patch, and hack that ridiculous battle number to play any song from your personal library. PS2 emulation is tightening up wonderfully. Whether or not Atlus deserves your money is up to you.

You can't really fault AtlusUSA for any real reason with the number of conceivable complications I could strum off my fingers and toes. Meanwhile as consolation, you can always lambast the general trend if you want.

editted: I just noticed the original premise of this thread. I'd assumed it was just about dub bashing. I might download that torrent, but I'm not sure how I would play it once I did. I'm assuming a modded console is required, or some manner of device. Any painless suggestions?
2103  MEGAMI TENSEI™ Uncensored / IMAGINE Online / Re: SMT: Imagine on: August 31, 2007, 11:55:02 AM
Has anyone had any experience with Windows Vista Home Premium Edition? I have a so far useless install on my fastest machine I thought would be good for toying with Imagine, but I'm downloading it now, and looking into the internationalization situation with Vista and it looks pretty bleak.

Way to go Microsoft in selling something and not letting your customers know until its too late that the PREMIUM edition is far from full featured!

Will the game display properly, or am I wasting my time? Will I be able to transfer the download over to an XP install after it finishes? Or will I have to start all over again?

Quote from: VISTA
"wanna do anything, upgrade to ULTIMATE!"
2104  MEGAMI TENSEI™ Uncensored / IMAGINE Online / Re: SMT: Imagine on: August 31, 2007, 08:25:17 AM
Earlier tonight I was informed Imagine is FREE all around, so I guess I've no excuses!
2105  MEGAMI TENSEI™ Uncensored / IMAGINE Online / Re: SMT: Imagine on: August 30, 2007, 10:39:37 AM
Quote from: Stunt;4875
Well, according to Speedtest:



I got about 14MB per second.

Is the 1.5Mbps requirements up and down? The requirements don't specify. Plus I don't suppose anyone knows anything about latency requirements?

I'm behind a satellite, which has really high latency, but it doesn't seem to be effected by the fact that the only servers might be in Japan, which is a plus I guess. Of course I can't know for sure until my FAP status rolls over. I've heard people say they have little complaints about playing WOW through my ISP.

I'm sort of intrigued because I've been Megaten starved for years, and wouldn't mind the real-time Japanese practice opportunity.

What is the billing like? I'm assuming a Japanese address is not a requirement:)

Can you play it casually? Like an hour a day tops?
2106  MEGAMI TENSEI™ Uncensored / Velvet Room / Re: Persona 3 Undubbed on: August 30, 2007, 01:57:12 AM
offtopic: What was "innocent sin online"?
2107  MEGAMI TENSEI™ Uncensored / Velvet Room / Re: Persona 3 Undubbed on: August 29, 2007, 12:13:06 AM
There was a lot of wonkey dialog and quirks as I recall. Mark could've started with drumsticks, with the no weapon animation. Then worked up to axes.

Don't f*** with a n*** packing an axe :rambo:
2108  MEGAMI TENSEI™ Uncensored / Velvet Room / Re: Persona 3 Undubbed on: August 28, 2007, 04:09:05 AM
I'm a subtitle purest, however I found Atlus USA's changes to P1 refreshingly compelling. Japan's ultra homogeneous culture has never set well with me personally. Not to mention Masao(Mark) was an extremely annoying and ridiculous character. I think ts even safe to bet, Japanese players would prefer the dolled-up cast of characters. Maki hooking up with a black kid actually makes more sense in Japan, where black kids are prized by young girls and guaranteed popularity. If the lead was really emo, he should dye his hair red! And as an anglo-japanese Eriko, could've been naturally blonde. The original cast just lacks color, even for Japan.

Finally, in fairness, Mark was by no means a racist characture for the period or in retrospect. Though it could've been nice were the axe weapon replaced in suit. Masao was basically a freak carrying an axe in his backpack. Frankly, who really wants to defend that.
2109  MEGAMI TENSEI™ Uncensored / IMAGINE Online / Re: SMT: Imagine on: August 25, 2007, 05:24:54 AM
This doesn't look so bad! The corporate site looks light on screenshots/artwork. Any suggestions?
2110  Be Your True Mind / The Turnstile / Re: Favorite Megami Tensei Game on: August 20, 2007, 05:05:06 PM
Is there any controversy over whether Batsu should be pronounced Bachi instead? Same kanji, but Bachi more specifically refers to punishment for sin vs. crime according to many of my references.
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