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 « Reply #105 on: January 02, 2009, 03:06:31 AM »
Tony had some somewhat detailed writings for the following Devils...

47     Ashinaga     Tanega     Japanese Legend           138     [BLOB - 491 B]    [BLOB - 330 B]    [BLOB - 0 B]    [BLOB - 272 B]
   Edit    Delete    36    Hannya         Japanese Mythology              [BLOB - 371 B]    [BLOB - 197 B]    [BLOB - 21 B]    [BLOB - 249 B]
   Edit    Delete    37    Ihika         Japanese Shinto Mythology              [BLOB - 456 B]    [BLOB - 218 B]    [BLOB - 21 B]    [BLOB - 100 B]
   Edit    Delete    19    Agathion         Unknown         134    [BLOB - 161 B]    [BLOB - 130 B]    [BLOB - 7 B]    [BLOB - 61 B]
   Edit    Delete    38    Hag    Old Hag, Crone    British Folklore              [BLOB - 956 B]    [BLOB - 193 B]    [BLOB - 21 B]    [BLOB - 109 B]
   Edit    Delete    48    Acheri         Indian Folklore         142    [BLOB - 308 B]    [BLOB - 211 B]    [BLOB - 0 B]    [BLOB - 69 B]
   Edit    Delete    45    Agony         Christianity         136    [BLOB - 495 B]    [BLOB - 264 B]    [BLOB - 0 B]    [BLOB - 54 B]
   Edit    Delete    46    Aka-Mant    Acamas, Akamant, Akamas    Greek Mythology         135    [BLOB - 863 B]    [BLOB - 323 B]    [BLOB - 0 B]    [BLOB - 59 B]
   Edit    Delete    26    Alp    Alp Vampire    German Folklore    Succubus         [BLOB - 1.0   KiB]    [BLOB - 154 B]    [BLOB - 21 B]    [BLOB - 188 B]
   Edit    Delete    56    Apsaras    AccharÄ�    Hindu and Buddhist Mythology    Lord Brahma, Gandharva    148    [BLOB - 1.3   KiB]    [BLOB - 210 B]    [BLOB - 0 B]    [BLOB - 166 B]
   Edit    Delete    30    Pyro Jack    Jack Lantern, Jack o' Lantern    Irish Folklore         217    [BLOB - 569 B]    [BLOB - 365 B]    [BLOB - 31 B]    [BLOB - 117 B]
   Edit    Delete    9    Archangel         Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Zoroastrianism.    Angel, Israfel, Gabriel, Michael, Azrael    127    [BLOB - 1.2   KiB]    [BLOB - 346 B]    [BLOB - 22 B]    [BLOB - 91 B]
   Edit    Delete    53    Ananta    Shesha, Ananta Shesha    Hindu Religion    Vishnu    145    [BLOB - 766 B]    [BLOB - 390 B]    [BLOB - 0 B]    [BLOB - 188 B]
   Edit    Delete    52    Anat    â€˜Anat, Antit, Anit, Anti, Anant    Northwest Semitic Mythology         144    [BLOB - 576 B]    [BLOB - 241 B]    [BLOB - 0 B]    [BLOB - 80 B]
   Edit    Delete    54    Anubis    Anpu, Anup, Anupu, Wip, Ienpw, Inepu, Yinepu, Inpw, Sekhem Em Pet    Egyptian Mythology         146    [BLOB - 2.2   KiB]    [BLOB - 270 B]    [BLOB - 0 B]    [BLOB - 172 B]
   Edit    Delete    41    Armaiti    Spenta Armaiti    Zoroastrianism, Persian/Middle Eastern Religion         131    [BLOB - 1.1   KiB]    [BLOB - 289 B]    [BLOB - 0 B]    [BLOB - 262 B]
   Edit    Delete    18    Azrael    Izrail, Azrail, Ashriel, Azaril, Azriel    Islam Religion         141    [BLOB - 1.7   KiB]    [BLOB - 147 B]    [BLOB - 0 B]    [BLOB - 59 B]
   Edit    Delete    7    Incubus         Western Medieval Legend    Succubus    173    [BLOB - 375 B]    [BLOB - 286 B]    [BLOB - 10 B]    [BLOB - 114 B]
   Edit    Delete    23    Cait Sith    Cat Sidhe, Cait Sidhe    Celtic Mythology              [BLOB - 1.6   KiB]    [BLOB - 141 B]    [BLOB - 21 B]    [BLOB - 277 B]
   Edit    Delete    33    Betelgeuse    Beetlejuice    Astronomy, Tim Burton's "Beetlejuice"              [BLOB - 596 B]    [BLOB - 219 B]    [BLOB - 21 B]    [BLOB - 62 B]
   Edit    Delete    31    Frankie    Frankenstein's Monster    Mary Shelley's "Frankenstein"              [BLOB - 1.7   KiB]    [BLOB - 223 B]    [BLOB - 21 B]    [BLOB - 115 B]
   Edit    Delete    34    Gagison         The Grimoire "The Book of the Sacred Magic of Abramelin the Mage"              [BLOB - 1.2   KiB]    [BLOB - 228 B]    [BLOB - 21 B]    [BLOB - 272 B]
   Edit    Delete    50    Atys    Attis    Phrygian Mythology    Cybele    143    [BLOB - 1.4   KiB]    [BLOB - 229 B]    [BLOB - 0 B]    [BLOB - 151 B]
   Edit    Delete    10    Ghoul         Arabian Folklore         206    [BLOB - 1.0   KiB]    [BLOB - 141 B]    [BLOB - 0 B]    [BLOB - 58 B]
   Edit    Delete    55    Apis    Hapis, Hapi-Ankh    Egyptian Mythology    Ptah, Osiris    147    [BLOB - 2.7   KiB]    [BLOB - 276 B]    [BLOB - 22 B]    [BLOB - 211 B]
   Edit    Delete    12    Queen Mab         English Folklore    Pixie, High Pixie         [BLOB - 465 B]    [BLOB - 296 B]    [BLOB - 22 B]    [BLOB - 146 B]
   Edit    Delete    43    Erl-king    Erlking, Erlkönig    German and Scandanavian Folklore         130    [BLOB - 1.0   KiB]    [BLOB - 220 B]    [BLOB - 0 B]    [BLOB - 100 B]
   Edit    Delete    32    Demi-Nandi    Nandi, Nahndi, Nandi Bull    Hindu Religion    Shiva         [BLOB - 895 B]    [BLOB - 249 B]    [BLOB - 21 B]    [BLOB - 91 B]
   Edit    Delete    44    Airavata    Ardha-Matanga, Naga-malla, Arkasodara    Hindu Religion         132    [BLOB - 1.4   KiB]    [BLOB - 246 B]    [BLOB - 0 B]    [BLOB - 166 B]
   Edit    Delete    16    Camazotz    Cama-Zotz, Sotz, Zotz    Mayan Mythology         180    [BLOB - 772 B]    [BLOB - 194 B]    [BLOB - 10 B]    [BLOB - 98 B]
   Edit    Delete    6    Jack Frost         European Folklore    King Frost         [BLOB - 758 B]    [BLOB - 352 B]    [BLOB - 61 B]    [BLOB - 63 B]
   Edit    Delete    39    Jiraiya         Japanese Folk Legend              [BLOB - 409 B]    [BLOB - 191 B]    [BLOB - 21 B]    [BLOB - 96 B]
   Edit    Delete    27    Knocker    Knackers, Bwca, Bucca, Tommyknockers    Welsh/Cornish Folklore    Brownies, Dwarves, Leprechauns         [BLOB - 1.4   KiB]    [BLOB - 233 B]    [BLOB - 21 B]    [BLOB - 177 B]
   Edit    Delete    40    Kugutsushi         Japanese Folk Legend              [BLOB - 228 B]    [BLOB - 177 B]    [BLOB - 21 B]    [BLOB - 161 B]
   Edit    Delete    15    Azazel    Aziel, Azael, Asiel, Hazazel    Judeo-Christian and Muslim Relgion         137    [BLOB - 1.1   KiB]    [BLOB - 178 B]    [BLOB - 0 B]    [BLOB - 131 B]
   Edit    Delete    4    Pixie         English Folklore    High Pixie, Queen Mab         [BLOB - 1.5   KiB]    [BLOB - 523 B]    [BLOB - 61 B]    [BLOB - 73 B]
   Edit    Delete    13    Raiju         Japanese Shinto Mythology              [BLOB - 640 B]    [BLOB - 162 B]    [BLOB - 22 B]    [BLOB - 58 B]
   Edit    Delete    8    Succubus         Western Medieval Legend    Incubus         [BLOB - 967 B]    [BLOB - 139 B]    [BLOB - 26 B]    [BLOB - 100 B]
   Edit    Delete    24    Cu Sith    Cusith    Gaelic Mythology              [BLOB - 865 B]    [BLOB - 0 B]    [BLOB - 21 B]    [BLOB - 60 B]
   Edit    Delete    25    Empousa    Empusa    Greek Mythology    Lamia         [BLOB - 522 B]    [BLOB - 184 B]    [BLOB - 21 B]    [BLOB - 99 B]
   Edit    Delete    11    High Pixie         English Folklore    Pixie, Queen Mab         [BLOB - 261 B]    [BLOB - 149 B]    [BLOB - 22 B]    [BLOB - 69 B]
   Edit    Delete    51    Aaman    Ammit, Ammut, Ahemait    Egyptian Mythology         129    [BLOB - 2.3   KiB]    [BLOB - 340 B]    [BLOB - 0 B]    [BLOB - 96 B]
   Edit    Delete    14    Asp         Egyptian         139    [BLOB - 776 B]    [BLOB - 184 B]    [BLOB - 0 B]    [BLOB - 66 B]
   Edit    Delete    49    Azumi    Azumi-no-isora    Japanese Shinto Mythology         140    [BLOB - 219 B]    [BLOB - 154 B]    [BLOB - 0 B]    [BLOB - 67 B]
   Edit    Delete    17    Thrones    Ophanim    Christianity         245    [BLOB - 251 B]    [BLOB - 178 B]    [BLOB - 0 B]    [BLOB - 100 B]
   Edit    Delete    35    Ukobach         Judeo-Christian Myth              [BLOB - 211 B]    [BLOB - 178 B]    [BLOB - 21 B]    [BLOB - 127 B]
   Edit    Delete    22    Zaccoum    Zaqqm    Islam Religion, Qu'ran         215    [BLOB - 817 B]    [BLOB - 131 B]    [BLOB - 0 B]    [BLOB - 294 B]
   Edit    Delete    57    Kodama         Japanese/Shinto folklore    hamadryads         [BLOB - 223 B]    [BLOB - 448 B]    [BLOB - 0 B]    [BLOB - 72 B]

I noticed the writings while backing up the database (I'm doing a major backup initiative for 2009)

I didn't notice them before because they're stored as binary for some reason (the BLOB columns)

I'll try to post that stuff (the Blobs) somewhere sooner or later (not necessarily on the main site) ...I dunno for sure if Tony for sure wrote the stuff up, but it doesn't look like copy/pasted info. Someone else could've been responsible, but it seems like Tony did most everything writing wise at least for the old website. Personally I feel like I've done enough so far to get to take a few years off sweatdrop



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 « Reply #106 on: January 05, 2009, 10:58:12 AM »
Sorry to keep you waiting. I already deleted all the spaces between the skill names.


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 « Reply #107 on: January 05, 2009, 01:09:04 PM »
Don't mind waiting as long as time keeps moving forward rolleyes


Awesome! I'll update the database asap (sometime in the next couple hours)

This will make many more of the English and Japanese skill names show up.



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 « Reply #108 on: January 05, 2009, 03:04:22 PM »
Good timing with this.... turns out yesterday I broke the links to the Persona lightbox pages when I changed the name of the About Lightbox page sick

PS: On the way in here, I noticed it looks like DevilRy finally found his way back... must've been stuck turning tricks for Old St. Nick rolleyes



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 « Reply #109 on: January 05, 2009, 06:12:17 PM »
Good timing with this.... turns out yesterday I broke the links to the Persona lightbox pages when I changed the name of the About Lightbox page sick

Phew! I'm glad! biggrin



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 « Reply #110 on: January 06, 2009, 12:39:38 AM »
Me too sweatdrop


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 « Reply #111 on: January 19, 2009, 11:04:38 PM »
I finally fixed an import bug that made Enbarr's skill list not show up. Apparently PHP evaluates "0" (the string sans quotes) as false, which seems really crazy to me, but probably has more pros than cons given the nature of PHP programming. Definitely something that should be on the front page of any PHP manual confused

Next I want to try to make the background images preload so when you hit next you don't go to a black background. And I gotta fix the javascript bug that makes the last Persona in the gallery not display in the popup. After this, I will feel like this database is ready for the show floor... EXCEPT! for the database isn't ready. So it will be up to our contributing users to help us complete the database as usual doh

It would also be nice to figure something out about working the cards into the popup layout. Mostly I just need someone to rename all of the card files. Oh and I want to make the layout scale around the font size. That is something else I will handle personally. The other stuff I need help with though if this page is ever gonna get out of "under construction" and into the Persona section of the website etcetera etcetera smokin

http://www.digitaldevildb.com/construction/persona/

Seriously peoples, I can't do everything myself hearton



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 « Reply #112 on: February 11, 2009, 05:51:01 AM »
OK!

I fixed the final popup bug. And I also have the images preloading now, so the background won't be black if they've had time to load...

(actually, the biggest hurdle there was realizing the graphics were technically backgrounds and not images doh)

So pretty much the core demonary technology is completely finished I think!

I think we should retire this thread too, and make threads for particular databases from now on.


I still need to work out more sorting options for Persona 1, but it's pretty much just a question of filling in the spreadsheets from here on out. So I gotta ask, if we still want to do this or not??? rolleyes

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 « Reply #113 on: April 24, 2009, 02:57:15 AM »
Sorry to drag this old dog out... but I'd like to know the present sentiment about the whole database half of the "digital devil database"??

I thought I worked out a very efficient system for turning this place into an actual database... the test database went well I thought, but the interest in actual devil databases seemed to drop to nil during the entire process.

I'd just like to know if there is anything I could do to make it easier to add databases to the website. Google Spreadsheet is way more sophisticated than anything I could devise, and I basically take care of everything else.

If you want, we can try to switch over to using the wiki I setup...

http://www.digitaldevildb.com/hell/index.php?title=Welcome_to_Hell

Or at least do a test database from it. Then I can Ajax the wiki pages to import the databases. I don't think that would be more efficient, but it might go over better with volunteers for whatever reasons a psychoanalyst could turn up rainbow

I was going to use that wiki for images, before I got the idea to develop the whole Media Library section into something bigger (which I still have on the drawing board)

I dunno, just seems a shame we don't have more happening in the database dept.

PS: Also Persona PSP is coming out, so it should behoove us to at least finish the P1 database in time sweatdrop

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 « Reply #114 on: May 09, 2009, 09:03:35 AM »
I'd be willing to help out since the Persona series was the whole damn reason I got involved in Megaten in the first place (that, and anything that'll give me a better reason as to why my translations are so slow  tongue)

Personally I'd love to see a demon database (as would most fans probably, even though they are somewhat silent) What exactly do you need? If I can help in any way I will



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 « Reply #115 on: May 10, 2009, 12:54:58 AM »
The two major things we need are Japanese/translated names for stuff (mostly magic) entered into our Google Spreadsheet. And after Atlus USA does it's thing with PSP edition, we'll need the new names it will be using (don't expect them to stick with the Revelations names do you!!)

Then we need to have the tarot card graphics named to match the background graphics so I can add that to the presentation. Then I can finish up the rest of the programming. If we want to go beyond just Persona info, then there is a lot that could be done.


The Google Spreadsheets are here (http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=piKSlpkg0llAny-VoXNRkKQ&hl=en)

Pick Persona on the bottom to get to the Persona sheet. It might seem a bit much at first, but it's really the easiest way to do this more or less. However we're really finished with the Persona sheet. What we really need is work in the Stock Terms sheet. Which is basic translation stuff that would apply to most every game. Then after that is finished it can just be copied over into the Persona sheet. There are Persona exclusive terms however. For now though it's probably easiest to just put everything into the stock terms sheet. Later when we have more than one game DB we can copy and prune it to make a general terms sheet(s).

Really I should reprogram the database so the terminology is a separate table. But for now this is easier. The main reason we have the terms in a separate spreadsheet is because Google won't let you sort a subset a rows, so this way you can just enter the terms willy nilly, then sort the row you want, then copy it into another sheet sorted. They don't have to be sorted, but it makes double entries less likely (once we get the bulk stuff in there)

Translation: If you just fill out the stock terms sheet I can do the rest. If you want to help rename the tarot cards, I can think of some way to facilitate that.

PS: To sort, just click the little boxes in the divider over the column you want to sort. Oh and I'll invite you to work on the spreadsheet by email if you still wanna try and help...

PPS: Also, I really don't care how the Japanese names are transliterated into English. But since I did what is there myself, I did it the way I thought was best. Whoever finishes the job can do it however the hell they like.

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 « Reply #116 on: May 11, 2009, 09:07:03 AM »
Yeah send me an email, managed to locate an Eternal Punishment magic list with the Japanese translations so should be able to at least contribute something to it


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 « Reply #117 on: May 13, 2009, 02:36:05 PM »
^Well, we don't have an EP page yet, though we do have a spreadsheet for it. Thing is we don't have a P2 section on the website yet, so probably an EP database would be hard to find, though I'm planning on adding a "Special Features" page, so people can go straight to the databases.

Emilio entered everything into these spreadsheets more or less single handedly. I translated the deity names into academic English. Emilio seems to have stopped short with translating everything though. Especially since Revelations doesn't even resemble a Megaten game terminology wise, it seems imperative to translate everything. If you can do the translating work, I'll pitch in and finish the tarot card graphics myself... just to get this all over with. I of course programmed everything... which was a lot of work, being our first database (and the first time the content of the site ever truly lived up to it's name tongue)

Anyway, we have a number of helpful links near the top of the Megami Ibunroku (Persona 1) spreadsheet. Everything you need to know is probably in one of those links. I'll go ahead and invite you to work on the spreadsheets, and I'll try to make sure you're working with them correctly once you get started. But like I said, probably you don't need to edit the Persona spreadsheet now. We really need work on the Stock Terms spreadsheet before we can move the Persona database out of the "Under Construction" section. Let me send you that email...


PS: Thanks for your continued support~

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 « Reply #118 on: May 18, 2009, 06:39:06 PM »

Had a look at it and translating it shouldn't be too much of a hassle (I hope). But before I get started I just wanna be clear....am I fill in the blank Localizations? or is it something else.... confused



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 « Reply #119 on: May 19, 2009, 05:18:27 PM »
I think what primarily needs doing is to just add rows to the terms table for all the classic stuff like Agi, Bufu, etc. Of course I already did a number of those (can't recall how far I got) ...then there are also a lot of extended magic families, and non-classifiable skills also that can just be tossed into the same bunch. The first field I think is for the Revelations skill name for now. Then there is just Japanese (in romaji -- maybe in kanji/hiragana as well... can't recall) ....and finally there is a field for just a straight best we can do English translation (edited: oh yeah, and don't forget original Japanese game names)

The goal is just to make sure when people are browsing the Megami Ibunroku database, there are no unnamed skills (in each of the three presentations; Revelations, Original, and Unofficial English Translation)

There will be a fourth for Atlus USA's PSP translation after that happens as well. If the reader is viewing the website in Spanish, then they will see Unofficial Spanish Translation instead... but that type of translation will be handled by a different database, so no need to think of it for now.

In short, we just need all the Megami Ibunroku skills indexed sweatdrop


^And later we can do the same for devils, items, etcetera doh


Edited: You can leave anything you're uncomfortable with blank. It's most important to just get the rows in there.

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