I don't take things personally, but you clearly appear to be doing so, and it's frustrating. Especially in public.
Not really. I'm just presenting an alternative viewpoint vis-à-vis the site banner. I really couldn't care either way. Rather, it just seems like you think I'm being insulting because I disagree.
Do you mean in vain?
Harhar.
Think Carly Simon.
I kid, I kid.
I apologize. I didn't realize we'd gone so far as to the point this stuff was even worth caring about
I'm just trying to make the site work technically! Before it was (no offense to Tony) basically unmanageable and technically erroneous site. If it was better implemented I have a feeling Tony would not have felt so overburdened by it. Especially if he'd reached out more to the community for support.
Afaik, there is no aspect to the site that can be judged on esthetic grounds, other than the banner, and possibly some choices of language?? Which of course are open to discussion. Frankly I'm very close to shutting down my development of the site until others (I respect your support) choose to help support the site.
All I was really referring to was the banners (the forum banner as well). Kerberos would be a pretty good site mascot though. I'm just saying a good, eye-catching banner draws people to the site, as stupid as that sounds. Good graphic design is like laying a trap for the senses. I think that by implementing better graphic elements it'll draw a much larger crowd. Basically be as inviting and as quick to the point as possible. Something that has "Megami Tensei" written all over it without having to actually write it on the banner itself.
More power to you on the technical front btw. I had a hard enough time just trying to navigate the damn Wordpress let alone manage a website with it.
It's not about what I want. I might be the executive in most cases, but I'm not "The Decider."
Well you are in the strict-"I am the only one who can edit and code the website"-sense you really are. I don't think it's about what I want either, I'm just trying to think from the viewpoint of the average English speaking person interested in Megaten, who, let's face it, will probably never play the original Digital Devil Monogatari (or II).
There's nothing to the site that reflects my own tastes. Tony's site must go for purely technical reasons, and I'm even happy to try to make the site look more or less like Tony's someday... once that becomes a technically viable option. I changed the site look, because it had to be, so I did the minimal I could muster to get the job done. If you're unhappy with it, keep working at it.
Well that's my plan, in my free time at least. We're going to need more than a minimal effort though if we plan to get more people on the site. It's just generally congruous logic to say that if we pick up on the design aspect we'll end up drawing more folks in. I think we can definitely glamorize the site up a bit without making it a clusterfuck.
These statements are totally inaccurate. Besides the fact, I think you're giving to much creedence to the significance of the site banner. A good banner I think should be quite subtle. It will appear on every page. Again these are just my feelings, not my decree. Like I've always said, your banner was fine... though I apologize if you expected it to jump straight from your post onto the front page. I believe in the slow wisdom of bureaucracy, and if something isn't technically broken, what's the rush to fix it? The second things start changing around here too fast, it really will look like a tyranny.
Well I really *wasn't* expecting it to go up, at least not forever, but I feel it looks a might better than the current one. I disagree with you on the importance of the site banner though. I mean it's the first thing that pops up in your browser and with today's highly visual interfaces I think you can't really stress the importance enough, especially if we're trying to attract the community.
You're obviously on about something. All I ask is you find an appropriate font and give it some more thought. I frankly could care less about a banner. And I don't think the banner I threw up there is the bee's knees. It's important to discuss matters, but if we can't do it without behaving like petulant schoolgirls I don't think that is the sort of atmosphere that inspires confidence. I'm not going to engage in petty arguments when it comes to development. Like with QBasic, you get a few warnings, and that's it for me.
Just the normal jabber-jaw session as per usual. If you want though I can reserve my dissent for PMs.
What do I deserve a warning for?
It's simpler to just not go here.
Simpler but counter-productive.
There are ways to be critical without being personal.
As evidenced by all my responses to you regarding this discussion.
Like in any congressional body. If there is opposition of any form, don't expect anything to happen immediately.
But the truth is, the way I see things, we're just trying to patch up the holes in this ship to see if it'll float. If people aren't going to support it, there's no point in getting our pants in a bunch.
I'm not expecting anything to happen immediately. But, like with congressional bodies, the citizenry likes to see their government perform more or less to their expectations - not dismiss them out of hand. I'm all in with you on the patching of the holes, I just think there are big ones out there you're missing, hence collaborative efforts yielding positive (and less frustrating) results!
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All I want is there to be real objectivity in the design of the site, because from here it really looks like you've revamped the place to your own tastes rather than by the input of the community, who you've more or less shut down for all intents and purposes.
but the games comprise the VAST majority of the franchise and certainly just about the only thing a casual discoverer is going to be familiar with.