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Edit: Ack nvm everyone. I figured out what was wrong. Apparently people have the same name that I put in.

Ha, yeah, we didn't really have to worry about that when it was basically brand new lol. Thanks for pointing that out, though.

You don't have one at all? Wow lol.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/n50o1v

Here are all the screenshots I've taken up to the point where you first summon your Persona. I would've posted them earlier, but my old video card got fried somehow, and I just replaced it yesterday. If you need more, just ask.

Thanks, this is really more than enough. If you find yourself playing it more, I certainly won't say no... but definitely don't go out of your way for it.

I really appreciate the help.

I think every one is very over what happened before. I can barely remember it... and like was said, you had already apologized over it.

So, no big deal. I'll just close this.

Thanks guys. I was given the go ahead to send some questions over and hope to hear back from them relatively soon. They were looking for more interesting questions than simply "what is Persona 3 like!", which I feel we've provided for them. I took what was written here and tried to phrase the questions the best I could... Although at some point I have to stop adding to the list, I think it's all been covered rather well (and also some questions I was personally interested in).

I'll obviously post it up as soon as I hear back. Thanks!

You could go round and round with a lot of this stuff anyway. It's all opinion. DDS and DS:KR were hardly amazing games, but I have a hard time saying OS is either. For me it became too repetitive before I was even finished with the first character and it really never came back. All of the characters play pretty much the same except for one.

I would say that if OS is better in any way or "higher quality" it is by only a small degree that I don't feel is even worth mentioning. Meanwhile, I know there are people who think it's one of the best games on the PS2. It just has aspects of it that are going to turn off some people, but will simultaneously make other people fall in love with it.

Vanilla Ware has made other games, however, including the original Princess Crown, which is quite similar to this in many ways and highly regarded by many. They do have a good pedigree, even if they're far from prolific.

I'd imagine it is lol.

I never heard of poutine before, so I looked it up. It seems really weird... The gravy aspect turns me off big time. :corkysm17

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poutine

I'm not entirely sure. I feel like I went in with someone else, but it was so long ago.

Assuming you were both in the same party already, do you both maybe need to buy a tablet to enter together?

Maybe that's what the silver tabelts are for, instead of the bronze?

I don't know, these are just guesses. :footinmou

I personally liked Dark Cloud 2, but still.

I don't know. I think overall I feel the same way about Rogue Galaxy. I like a couple of the main characters and the basic idea of going to other planets is fun, but I don't think it's very well capitalized upon. You're just taken from wide open dungeon to wide open dungeon, none of which are particularly interesting. Something about it feels off the entire time and, looking back at it, I wonder if I have been trying to convince myself I "like" it so that I don't feel like I've wasted the money.

But to be honest with myself, I think I've wasted the money lol.

Going back to games... lol.

My 360 is broken and on its way to be fixed, so I've been popping in games on other systems I've never finished before. One of them was Rogue Galaxy. I was only like 4 hours in it before I moved on to other things. I'm not sure why, since I liked it.

I've been enjoying it the last couple of days. Sometimes I think areas are just way too big and open for their own good... it makes it a bit tedious, but it's still an overall enjoyable game. I guess it's not a favorite, but I'm kind of struggling to come up with any recent RPG I've really loved.

Nah, there was another poster from Guatemala that suddenly appeared when Emilio needed it the most. As soon as he did appear, Emilio disappeared. And as soon as he left, Emilio reappeared.

Oh, well, I can verify that he doesn't share an IP range with anyone else here... so I don't know what else to say about that.

If you guys mean that one guy that was constantly insulting him? I think I banned him, I didn't see the point.

If you mean Heat, I think he's taking a break from a lot of websites for a while lol.

Sorry, I edited it even more since you responded (well, before I knew you guys did anyway heh). Well, if you guys have some "in" with the company and that's the reason, then what more can I say lol. I thought it was a serious possibility, but I concede! :D

Is it kind of in the same vein of what happened with Dragon Warrior IV on the PSX? I remember Enix saying they'd do it, but the Heartbeat disbanded... Enix was claiming that without their help, it'd be almost impossible to work English text into the game. That was depressing lol. I don't know about either of you, but that is one of my favorite NES games. If not the favorite.

Also, I've not been to the Haven since well before I opened this message board, so I apologize for the misunderstanding.

To make this actually relate to the thread topic -- They sure don't get a lot of room at these new booths.

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I don't see anyone flaming anyone. It's a discussion of a topic... we can't even disagree/agree and say why without it being seen as a fight? I'm hardly upset here lol. People don't enjoy the mindless banter on other sites, but when some thing is actually being discussed people act weirded out.  I don't understand it lol.

I never meant to imply the game wasn't good or wasn't pretty. I've played through a good deal of the original (I own the PSX, Saturn and PSP versions of the game -- just like I own a lot of other random Japanese titles from the main franchise). I think graphically it stands up relatively well, even now. I think you're misinterpreting that portion you bolded, which I know I could have phrased better. Basically, I would have loved for it to come out here. I'm a big fan of the type of game Devil Summoner is. Please understand that. They're my favorite type of RPG lol (and coincidentally, Etrian Odyssey is my favorite DS game).

When I say "glancing" at it gives that impression, I meant that glancing at it gives the impression that it's part of an extremely niche genre (for reasons I do not understand, a lot of people would be WAY more accepting of the game if it was 3rd person even). Just like you can tell this just by looking at a screen of Wizardry or Etrian Odyssey or Nightmare of Druaga or whatever else (all games I do personally like). How good it is is not relevant to that, because I know (as you know) it's a good game. That doesn't mean I want them to or would do it if I was in their shoes (in fact, I think if they released it back when it was new they could have gotten decent sales since the market wasn't horribly crowded).

I just think that there's financial reasons that could have added to the list of reasons (including technical issues) we didn't see it. If the hardware problems are the real, number one reason, what's stopping financial reasons for being the second reason? Do you honestly think this wasn't even considered? Personally, I think that if they thought it would do really well, even by their sales standards, they'd get past the "technical problems". I don't know why they couldn't just tell anyone that when they asked instead of telling us all it's for a "variety of secret reasons" (which was basically their exact wording when I asked about it right out).

When Devil Summoner was first announced for PSP in Japan, I hoped for it. I asked about it in interviews. I asked about it on other forums. I remained optimistic about it as time went on. What else could I possibly do about it at the time? Yet, they completely said "no" to it. We already had been coming together in asking for it and other games. I remember asking about the GBA games and other things on their forums and being told no as well. If I was given a less direct answer, you better believe I'd still be asking about it today lol.

But that was over a year ago. I mean, I think it's a fair thing to ask and I don't see why it's not a possibility. I don't think stating this makes me (or anyone) somehow unsupportive or refusing to "come together" over these titles. I'm sure a lot of us felt the way SWR fans feel now when Atlus started their whole SMT campaign here and there was definitely excitement in the air. Every game seemed like a possiblity as time went on, but they've since narrowed things down. I mean, shit, I was one of two people on GAF pushing the hell out of Nocturne before Atlus USA would even comment on it. If another game like Devil Summoner popped up, you better believe I'd be asking them about it and hoping about it all over again. Basically, I'm not sure what else I should be doing differently lol.

So I don't know. Personally I think they should have and wish they would have brought Devil Summoner out here. Something tells me it would have done at least as well as Contact or Jewel Summoner and it'd clearly better than both of those.

I don't know if this clarifies things or not (I hope so), but honestly, in reading what you wrote I think we're both largely on the same page from what I can tell. I apologize for any confusing wording in relation to that.

^Nah, I was told it was due to technical issues by a former Atlus employee. As far as selling like crap, what Atlus titles burn up the charts? None of them sell that well.

I think we're on totally different wavelengths here. Most of Atlus's games apparently sell within their general expectations or they'd not bother to even be in existence any longer. No one is expecting Atlus games to even usually crack the top ten in any given months, I'm sure even including the company itself.

Devil Summoner on PSP is an RPG, sure. And so are most Atlus games. But it's also of a niche in the genre that is incredibly and utterly unpopular here on a system that is struggling to sell games in general. There's a difference between selling a game like that on the PS2, with god knows how many millions of units in use currently, and the PSP... And even then, I wonder if they'd be that interested in games like Nocturne if they were completely first person dungeon crawlers still.

I'm not saying that that it was the main reason, because I have no problem accepting that it was some technical issue (that's happened before with other smaller companies)... but I find it very hard to think that it wouldn't sell more poorly than pretty much any other Megaten related title they've bothered with so far. I mean, just glancing at it can give you that impression. Sometimes certain things just aren't worth bothering with and I think Devil Summoner, as much as I personally would like to play that, would be a really big example of that.

If I've learned anything online, it's to not take things personally. I bet in a real world situation where you could actually hear the tone/inflection of things written here it would come off much differently a lot of the time... It's not really necessary to assume the worst off the bat.

In any case, please drop it. It's not really necessary and I think you both know it lol.