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^You gotta admit, it's pretty cool to see the wiki without all that gaudy advertising and distracting widgets

I spent a ton of time doctoring the wiki layout (http://www.digitaldevildb.com/wiki/)

I hope someone agrees with it. The links still don't work, but you can do something like (http://www.digitaldevildb.com/wiki/?title=Kerberos) for fun for now. It still needs some work down in the gallery section.

Just need to add the title of the article to the window and page title and a grey border around images, and alternating grey rows in tables.


PS: That graphic of "Pascal as Cerberus" is probably inaccurate. That is presumably a version of Pascal concept art that didn't make it into the game (unfortunately)

^Thanks for doing what our Editors are supposed to be doing Jessicat... I'll try to get up your corrections asap.

To be honest I don't even read these news posts so much, because I'm afraid I'll end up editing them, and there are other things I should be doing sitewise

What forums would you like to help Moderate? Mostly the moderators are encouraged to help us pass out karma when users do something of special merit. It's kind of a way of showing seniority/influence around here, should users choose to exercise it.

Moderators can give karma, but any user can report a post for karma (or naughtiness) ...which then gets passed to the acting moderators. We've been pretty lax about karma lately, but we try to encourage contributors to post records of their contribution in their credits thread in the SoS board which can be used for a karma round up (and is the only real accounting of credits effort)

I will add you to all the game boards if you don't mind. Just because Emilio is the only user on those boards... though actually he is the only real acting moderator around here (if we ever needed one)

Neao posts only once in a blue moon, so assuming he's not reading. DevilRy went all "The Exorcist" on the website. I'm just leaving his stuff around in case he ever feels like returning (this place needs any help it can get) ...he contributed a lot, but he actually demanded I remove his stuff, and stole away a copy of MIP I'd lent him as retribution (because I wouldn't) sooo....


PS: Any chance of sharing the DVD image somehow? Or are you just resigned to ripping the video portion?

If you ever do nab that encyclopedia we could translate it for the Encyclopedia section. Always nice to have some official words/content.

I was just wondering if you save this stuff on a personal machine somewhere. I think a lot of the image hosting services will let you keep very large images in great quantities up on the internet in very public places. That has been my observations at least... I've never been enough of an image purveyor myself to make my own image hosting account.

Just seems like a shame knowing these images will probably disappear sooner or later.

Once this is fully functional, I'm thinking we could either give it a top-level page called "Megami Tensei Wiki" ...or make a top-level page called "Partnerships" and file it under there. For the first option it can be at digitaldevildb.com/wiki/ and for the latter it would be somewhere like digitaldevildb.com/partners/wikia/ or digitaldevildb.com/partners/megami_tensei_wiki/.

But those pages could just be introduction stubs, and the articles would still most probably be under /wiki/.

Either way, once Google starts plumbing the pages they should show up in any searches from our sidebar.


PS: Personally I lean towards Partnerships, but that would make it harder to find.

It would be nice to have all of this stuff on the website in the Collectibles area somewhere. Do you ever save these images?

I've been meaning to setup a "Media Library" system so anyone can upload images to the website under their user id. But I haven't gotten around to it, both because of other stuff I've been interested in, and the general air of disinterest around here of late


PS: Wordpress has it's own Media Library upload feature for Contributors, but it never works right via my connection personally. If you'd like to try to make a page, you could maybe try it.

Here is an unlisted page I threw together in a half an hour or two (http://www.digitaldevildb.com/wiki/)

^Had to add some basic functionality to the website.

It will take me a long time to parse the wiki pages so they will look right on this website. I will remove any editing links and stuff because this is a readonly version of your wiki. I also gotta figure out a way to rewrite the links before Wordpress sees them... I think a plugin that handles a small part of our translation code might reveal a way to do so without messing with the Apache rewrite rules.

Speaking of translations... does Wikia have any translation services you can use with your wiki? Usually wikis are not translated, but instead have a whole other wiki for each language that evolves at it's own pace. But I think translations would probably be better for game/trivia wikis. If it's evern needed maybe we could offer some translation services in return for "mirroring" your wiki one day. I'd really like to see everything on this website be translatable.


PS: For now the links back to this site are all bogus. I just have it showing the Orthrus page by default. The front page of the wiki as is is a little too unwielding to fit into our 800px format I'm afraid.

I thought, as long as you're in town Bluer, we could talk about some stuff Wiki wise...

For starters, I just noticed someone uploaded a new Orthrus graphic (on our front page feed)

The graphic was a pretty cool one I've never seen (I'm a bit of an Orthrus fan)

http://megamitensei.wikia.com/index.php?title=File:Orthrus.png&diff=21524&oldid=prev


But on your Orthrus page (http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Orthrus)

The graphic on the top of the page says it is from SMT, and I'm pretty certain that is MT2 style artwork... though we were eventually able to confirm that is indeed Kaneko Kazuma's handy work. I'm also not sure that is Orthrus frankly. Orthrus plays a key role in that game and doesn't really look like that (it's my favorite game actually)

Anyway, so wikis can be wrong. It's not the end of the world. But, also stuff like the...

"Disclaimer: All fair-use images found on this Wiki are the property of Atlus Co., Ltd."

...disclaimer on your front page. Megaten media is copyrighted by probably at least 10 different entities I can think of off the top of my head, and probably plenty more. So it's just silly to say your images are bar none property of Atlus Japan. For instance, the graphic atop the Orthrus page, at the time of it's doing would've been property of Namcot, which was a home console subsidiary or division of Namco. It now might also be copyrighted by Kaneko himself, but probably is not the property of Atlus. And even if it was by some dealing, that information would not likely be public knowledge.

Just saying, you should at least change that disclaimer, and also have people source where they're finding their graphics and the logic behind them. Also try to trackdown copyright info for images on an individual basis.


PS: The wiki is great. And this thread for now is fine for discussing anything about your wiki. I just had to get that off my chest real quick

Got it!!

PS: Please be sure to keep track of your contributions in the "Sea of Souls" board

Spanish title?

Btw, let us know if this is also on your blog and it's link in your blog please

What's really going on here with all the 3D Persona 2 and Devil Summoner characters? Is this not about SMTIII?

Your effort will definitely avoid implosion by shying away from the impulse to form a post-apocalyptic nerd road-warrior gang of nomads.... but at the same time you run the risk of not appearing to be explosive either, and the nerds will shun you, as is their antisocial nature. Truthfully what really defines nerd pathology is an inability to be functional with otherwise perfectly functional people. Immaturity comes in all shapes and sizes

As for finding the message boards from the main site... we ("I") run a pretty organized operation. Just look for "Bulletin Boards" in the sidebar. It's a top-level page. If you want to get here directly, then bookmark it. We make you jump thru all kinds of hoops coming thru the frontdoor to make sure you understand anything goes in this bbs, and also that you really can feel safe here. The only no no is bullying. Real stalking/harassment/petty/uninstigated/uncalled for (and yet all too common) bullying. Also, non-spam content is never pulled here.

In all seriousness, I'd hazard to guess your wiki has at least 100x more content going up than we do here atm

We have a bit of a content problem