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 « Reply #15 on: August 08, 2007, 07:05:02 PM »
Why is Vaan the main character?? he isn't even needed..:S


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 « Reply #16 on: August 08, 2007, 07:35:30 PM »
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I'd buy this again.


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 « Reply #17 on: August 09, 2007, 04:57:33 PM »
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Why is Vaan the main character?? he isn't even needed..:S


It's Ashe's story told through his eyes.



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 « Reply #18 on: August 09, 2007, 05:10:14 PM »
I think the tragedies Ashe suffered would have made for a fantastic narrative. At least it's vastly more interesting than Vaan's pirate ambition. His "I want to be an adventure" motto is so typical of heroes. Ashe's kingdom fell and her husband died, which served as a surprisingly dark intro to a final fantasy. Great storyline anyways, but I think Ashe would have been a better choice as the main character. It would have been the first Final Fantasy with a strong female lead. (FFX2 did have a female cast, but they were pretty silly to me.)


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 « Reply #19 on: August 09, 2007, 09:09:05 PM »
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His "I want to be an adventure" motto is so typical of heroes.

Yes and no. He did it without being a whiny obnoxious bitch.



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 « Reply #20 on: August 09, 2007, 09:27:06 PM »
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Yes and no. He did it without being a whiny obnoxious bitch.


It's a tagline for many shounen stories though. Dragon Ball, One Piece, Naruto, so on and so forth in anime; Skies of Arcadia, Final Fantasy IX, and some others when it comes to games. Many have gotten tired of it and many of these types of characters aren't whiny bitches.




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 « Reply #21 on: August 09, 2007, 09:45:04 PM »
I find the Vaan bashing cliched. That is all. I didn't say they did something fresh. Hence the 'yes and no.'


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 « Reply #22 on: August 09, 2007, 10:33:07 PM »
I'm not bashing Vaan per se. The only problem is that he is birthed from a mold tirelessly reused. Nothing was particularly wrong with him.  In fact he was a great character in his own right, but I do think Ashe would have been a fantastic, and better main character. She wasn't a princess in distress whom needs rescue and her back story is filled with awesome story material. Vaan on the other hand was a very happy, optimistic character without a shade of grief. Ashe seemed more dynamic to me.

Oh and what was this topic about again. :P

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 « Reply #23 on: August 09, 2007, 10:34:53 PM »
I honestly don't mind this sort of thing after years of drama and angsty lead characters. I like when they actually enjoy what they're doing honestly. I loved Skies of Arcadia for it. Obviously that's going to get played out again too (apparently it has for some people already), but I'd sure as hell want to play as Vaan than, say, Haseo from .hack //G.U.



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 « Reply #24 on: August 09, 2007, 10:43:24 PM »
One of my friends keeps pushing me to play G.U., but I can't. Rented it once and that was enough for me.

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 « Reply #25 on: August 10, 2007, 12:09:52 AM »
Well I'm glad the game actually got enough positive attention to have an overhaul remake done. So many of my FF biased friends were like "Anything suxxorz next to the glory of FF-7!" . Personally FF 12 is my favorite in the series or at the very least tied with FF 6.

However as much as I admire Vossler I'd doubt I'd drop another  $40.00 for a few new perks.

Btw I'm nighty! Sorry for the lack of introduction but I still haven't found that topic thread.

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 « Reply #26 on: August 11, 2007, 11:26:23 AM »
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It would have been the first Final Fantasy with a strong female lead. (FFX2 did have a female cast, but they were pretty silly to me.)


A proper FF with a lead female? Are you mad?!

I don't understand why SE don't have a FF (an actual one) with a female character. It's not like they'd get criticised for it (one would hope) so why not? It's obvious the story is about Ashe - after all, Vaan wanted to be a pirate and hated the empire, not to restore the throne.

If the story was seen through Vaan's eyes, then it was a pretty poor narrative. I don't ever remember hear Vaan saying (a la Tidus) his thoughts on the journey. All I remember are those bits where Ashe was looking at ruined Nabudis with Vaan skulking up behind her (which were never explained). And what was with those aliens? The ones near the end? What the flaming hell was that all bout?



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 « Reply #27 on: August 11, 2007, 03:23:20 PM »
Doesn't FFXIII have a female lead?


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 « Reply #28 on: August 11, 2007, 04:16:49 PM »
Funny I actually saw Ashe and Balthier as the leads. It was hard for me to place Van in the role of the "lead hero" though I know that is what the designers intended. Lycan has a point. Everything would have made more sense if Ashe would have been  assigned the lead role. I'm not bashing Van . He's a great character despite the harsh criticism he has gotten but I was still more intrigued with Ashe.


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 « Reply #29 on: August 11, 2007, 04:30:52 PM »
In the FFXIII trailer it shows that girl doing somersaults, but I don't know if she is the main character. Or that black-glad bloke with the wires.

I can see when people say they like Vaan for the "just going along for the ride"ness. I like my lead characters to have a bit more depth to them though - a bit more a link to what's happening around them, however the scenes when Vaan and Penelo kidded around with each other when they got to a new place were quite heartwarming - shame there weren't enough of them.

To be honest, I'm the sort of FF-player that loved Squall (loved his story to bits), so Vaan was never going to click with me.



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