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Neao:Wait, you're done with the series now?What about when Persona 2 had a second part that came out almost exactly a year after the first one? Why weren't you done then?

P2:EP was a continuation of the story,not a completely different sequel.Persona 2 was released three years after the first Persona game.

Although only one half got localized, you could still pull the lazy card on Atlus then, so why wait 8 years?

I didn't wait even half that long and I enjoyed P2 for the most part (unlike P3).

I'm done with the series.I don't plan on buying any more persona games after playing Persona 3.Persona 4 is shaping up to be a rushed sequel (P3 only came out a year ago) with only a few changes from the previous title.

Emilio Morales:Is Elizabeth the person that appears next to Igor?

Elizabeth is not in Persona 4.

-Meguro's sticking to a similar style for the music and a few of the songs from P3 are reused.
-They slightly improved the broken battle system.
-Egor is now alone and the Velvet Room is located on a train.
-There are plot-related randomized dungeons.
-There's a fishing mini-game.
-The towns are smaller and the dungeons are bigger.
-The game features Trinity Soul quality cutscenes.

- Looks like Persona 3 with slightly better graphics.
- Takes place in the countryside.
- The theme is murder/mystery,it's a mystery thriller.
- No Kaneko and Meguro is composing again...
- 85% Complete already
- July 10th release
- about 60-70 hours long (shorter than Persona 3?)
- Multiple endings like Persona 3
- High school setting again
- Over 180 reused Personae!
- Social manipulation returns with the Social Link system!
- The main characters wear glasses to summon persona (lol)
- The protagonist looks like Akihiko with a dumb haircut.
- Two of the protagonist's classmates are Yousuke Hanamura and Chie Satonaka. The former is a loud mouth and is quite a show-off.The latter is a lively and sociable young lady who loves to chat (the new Junpei and Yukari).
- There is a weather forecast system, and whenever there is fog,a murder occurs (basically the calendar from Persona 3,except the weather forecast replaces the moon phases).

Atlus sure didn't waste any time trying to milk the success of Persona 3 (FES,the apparently crappy anime and now,a new persona game).Persona 4 sounds like more of the same...I guess that's a good thing if you liked the previous "Persona" game.

I preordered my copy of Persona 3 and sold it after two weeks.I beat it a couple of times,but I didn't like the game that much.The gameplay is a hodgepodge of mediocrity (a pseudo-dungeon crawler mixed with a shallow dating sim and a overly simplified,broken version of Nocturne's press turn system).The game is too easy,the full moon battles are a joke and the floor guardians in Tartarus aren't much better.The music is terrible and lacking in variety.Fuuka's annoying voice and the horrible battle music made me mute the game.

The menus lag and they removed the ability to turn off the gaudy battle animations for some reason.The animation and artwork in the cutscenes remind me of Serial Experiments Lain (not in a good way).The enemies and floors in Tartarus are recycled with different skins.The main cast are a bunch of clichéd anime characters that fail to transcend from their stereotypes into something likable.

I dislike Persona 3's soundtrack.I grew tired of listening to the same lousy songs loop over and over again.

Orpheus doesn't transform into Thanatos.Thanatos can only be fused after 9/21 and your Death Social Link needs to be maxed.You need to fuse all Death persona together.

[@aerozero:]

I prefer the Demi-fiend's design.

@aerozero: I didn't know that the main character of Nocturne could change his appearance, interesting.

He cannot change his demonic form.

Yeah my vote is for Reiji as well.

Yes,it is Reiji.My previous post's list came from the creator of the picture himself.

[@haseo:]

@haseo: Kagatuchi is also energy of demons that they require to live and grow strong

No,that's Magatsuchi(emotion with a physical form).

(the nightmare system in SMT3 whic absorbs all the Magatuchi obliberates an entire clan and kills they're leader)


fixed.

I'm not sure mgatuchi is relly needed to summon a god of creation

It's stated more then three times in the game that Magatsuchi is needed to summon a Reason guardian.

@Demi-heat: is magatsuchi or magasuhi?

Magatsuchi.

@Claudio: Does Yuko find a Reason to summon Aradia?

No,Yuko calls Aradia from the depths of the Amara Network to give her a Reason.

My persona would probably be Odin.

From top to bottom,left to right:

Minato(Fool)
Junpei(Magician)
Fuuka(High Priestess)
Mitsuru(Empress)
Ahikihiko(Emperor)
Shinjiro(Hierophant)
Yukari(Lovers)
Aigis(Chariot)
Ken(Justice)
Jin(The Hermit)
Takaya(Wheel of Fortune)
Koromaru(Fortitude)
Chidori(Hanged man)
Ideo(Death)
Raidou(Moderation)
Demi-fiend(Devil)
Serph(Tower)
Mary(Moon)
Ellen(Judgment)
Katsuya(Justice)
Lisa Silverman(Lovers)
Chris(Devil)
Chihiro(Justice)
Elizabeth

[To defeat Elizabeth:]

To defeat Elizabeth:

-You need to be Lv.99
-Equip the Armor and Shoes of Light from Messiah(Resist/Evade Magic).
-The persona item "Divine Pillar" from Alilat.
-A persona with High Counter and a lot of resistance(No Null/Repel/Drain though).
-Vishnu and Atanta for the Mix Raid "Infinity".
-Lucifer and Satan to finish her off with Mix Raid "Armageddon".

Elizabeth is able to attack twice per turn and has 20,000 HP.

Her Attack Pattern:

0 Turn(after summoning Masakudos on the 8th turn) - Uses Physical attacks/Nulls all,except Almighty

1st Turn - Surt(uses fire)/absorb fire,receives greater damage from Ice attacks

2nd Turn - Jack Frost(uses ice)/absorbs ice,receives greater dmg from fire

3rd Turn - Thor(uses elec)/absorbs elec,receives greater dmg from wind

4th Turn - Cuu Chulainn(uses wind)/absorbs wind,receives greater dmg from elec.

5th Turn - Metatron(uses hama)/null all,except almighty

6th Turn - Alice(uses mudo)/null all,except almighty

7th Turn - Nebiros(uses ailments)/null all,except almighty

8th Turn - Masakudos(Almighty)/null all,except almighty

Special - Pixie(Healing and Almighty)/null all,except almighty
Summoned if you bring team members to the fight,reduce her HP by half(one time only),and every turn while her HP is below 9999.

Special - Maskudos(see above)
Summoned if you switched to a persona with Null/Repel/Drain.

To beat her you need to lower her HP by almost half,then wait for High Counter to work(to knock her HP below 9999).After that cast Armageddon to finish her off.

Useful persona for the fight:

Attis + Loki + Seth = Atropos

Loki + Yata(sun) = Laksmi

Black Frost +Samael = Hanuman

Bishamon(sp?) + Asura(Endure and Unshaken Will) + Skadi = Throne

Throne + Michael + Alilat = Cybele

Cybele + Trumpeter + Anubis = Vishnu

Atropos(lv.59 Resist Elec) + Laksmi(lv.53 Resist Fire) = Siegfried(lv.58 High Counter)

Siegfried(Resist Elec,Resist Fire and High Counter) + Vishnu(Endure and Unshaken Will) + Hanuman(lv.54 Resist Slash and Resist Ice) = Kikuri-hime(Resist Slash,Ice,Fire,Elec and Endure)

Kikuri-hime + Messiah + Siegfried(resummon) = Chi You

He has 5 available skill slots and 12 skills to choice from(I gave him High Counter,Unshaken Will,Resist Elec,Resist Fire and Resist Ice).