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Title: Persona 3
Post by: Kakizaki on March 08, 2006, 11:01:26 AM
http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=89409

Some scans.  I can only assume KK's absence means he is working on SMT4 ??? ? ?


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Tony on March 08, 2006, 03:43:13 PM
Wow, I didn't expect to hear about this so soon. I was reading comments by Atlus recently that the next Persona title might go to PS2 instead of PS3 and here we are. Freaking awesome.

Thanks for posting this :D

I posted the images on www.digitaldevildb.com so that they're on something a bit more stable. Too many times I go back to an image like that on a free image host only to find it blocked for bandwidth use...


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Cho on March 08, 2006, 04:39:07 PM
The trailer:
@ Youtube:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=M1Ie0uHI9jA

Zipped (not my webspace, please use gently):
http://www.shinetworks.net/cgi-bin/snup/src/up17440.zip_q5Xvub06qgdVy0ipXUi5/up17440.zip

90~MBs.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Tony on March 08, 2006, 05:12:07 PM
Quote from: Cho
The trailer:
@ Youtube:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=M1Ie0uHI9jA (http://youtube.com/watch?v=M1Ie0uHI9jA)

Zipped (not my webspace, please use gently):
http://www.shinetworks.net/cgi-bin/snup/src/up17440.zip_q5Xvub06qgdVy0ipXUi5/up17440.zip (http://www.shinetworks.net/cgi-bin/snup/src/up17440.zip_q5Xvub06qgdVy0ipXUi5/up17440.zip)

90~MBs.

Cool, thanks. I don't have a problem hosting that on D3 later on once I get home. Can't wait to see it.

Edit - The file is linked to on www.digitaldevildb.com . I put it in a RAR this time and got it down to 80 MBs packed.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Cho on March 08, 2006, 05:17:59 PM
You'll also get to see why P3 may not see a stateside release.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Argilla on March 08, 2006, 05:55:03 PM
It was like I was an anime...a really boring one at that. I can't believe Mike Shinoda is in this game! :O Will there be rock rap?


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Tony on March 08, 2006, 05:57:32 PM
You guys are very good at destroying my hopes for this game before I even get to see the movie :buh:


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Argilla on March 08, 2006, 05:59:37 PM
LOL! Don't worry, Tony! That's just how I feel about it(some are still really anticipating it) and I most likely won't get this one.^^;


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Cho on March 08, 2006, 08:19:15 PM
I kinda agree. I mean, even though the first two Persona games were highschool themed, you only spend a small amount of time at school. Apparently, half the game is spent in school in this one.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Data Drain on March 08, 2006, 08:58:41 PM
So...who's up to translating it for the rest of us? xDD


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Tony on March 08, 2006, 09:51:55 PM
http://www.rpgfan.com/news/2006/1129.html (http://www.rpgfan.com/news/2006/1129.html)

This pretty much lines up everything you need to know. Even if I don't know Japanese, I'm glad some one like Chris does lol.

Quote
 Following a candid remark (http://www.rpgfan.com/news/2006/1125.html) by Kazuyuki Yamai hinting at a brand new Persona game, Atlus today revealed what is now officially known as Persona 3. The PlayStation 2 title is produced and directed by Atlus veteran Katsura Hashino (who has worked on the Shin Megami Tensei series since Shin Megami Tensei ...if and served as director of Shin Megami Tensei III: Nocturne), while Shigenori Soejima (whose track record includes Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers, Persona 2, and Stella Deus) serves as character designer and art director.

 The game's protagonist is a high school student attending a private school on an island located close to the harbor city of Iwatodai. At first glance he lives a normal life as he attends school in the morning and then heads for the city to hang out with his friends in the afternoon. However, in the world of Persona 3 a day does not have 24 hours. In fact, every day at midnight the so-called Shadow Time begins. The lord of this time is the game's villain: A monster by the name of Shadow. While normal human beings don't realize its existence, the protagonist and his friends are apt at moving around in this Shadow Time. After being attacked by Shadow, the 17-year old acquires this ability and because of his extraordinary capability becomes the leader of a unit set up to defeat Shadow. Other playable characters include the protagonist's fellow Junpei Iori (who can summon the Persona Hermes) and the optimstic and cheerful heroine Yukari (whose Persona is known as Io).

 
During the day players will attend school and after the club activities in the afternoon they are able to move around freely in town, visiting various locations, such as the school, the station or the local Shinto Shrine.
At night, when the Shadow Time begins, the world around the protagonists changes and the battle for the future begins. A mysterious tower known as Tartaros Director also exists in this world. Hashino explains that the Shadow Time is basically an extension of the spiritual world highlighted in previous Persona games. Character designer Soejima mentions that it was his aim to create a world that was neither science-fiction nor fantasy-themed from the very beginning. Instead he wanted to create a stylish modern-day world. In total the game will cover a one-year period which translates into a playing time of more than 50 hours, according to Atlus. The game will try to emulate a student's life in a realistic way, by throwing exams, school festivals and illnesses such as a cold at the player.

 
An important aspect of the game are so-called Communities. If the player manages to befriend community NPCs, he can level up his community levels. A high community level will translate into being able to raise more powerful Personas.

 
Persona 3 will let players fuse multiple Personas. Therefore the player needs to bring two or more Persona cards to the Velvet Room. Those Persona cards can be obtained by defeating Shadow in battle. Once the player obtains a new Persona card, the creature residing within the card can be summoned. After a victorious fight, players might have to choose among five different Persona cards. Up to four party members can take part in a battle.

 
Persona 3 is currently 75% complete and on track for a July 13th release in Japan.  

In some ways it sounds interesting, in some ways I'm sceptical... It does kind of sound like a random anime to me, which is a bit of a turn-off. At the same time, I suppose the other titles in the series pretty much did too. It's surprising that Kaneko wasn't more involved... Although, if anything, I'd imagine a lot of it had to do with his heavier work on Devil Summoner for PS2 -- if this game is 75% done, their development time would have obviously been overlapping at points.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Cho on March 08, 2006, 10:39:32 PM
Yeah, the storyline sounds like ass.

However, let us all recall Digital Devil Saga 1's storyline:
Tribes fight in a crappy land known as the Junkyard, the winning tribe will be able to enter Nirvana. One day, a mysterious girl appears on the battle field and awakens something deep within the warriors."

Some of the sequences are neat, but the fact that Emo McHeroson wasn't phased by the COFFINS EVERYWHERE AT ALL is kind of strange.

(http://pictureposter.allbrand.nu/pictures/ichigoshot/screen/bangagain.jpg)


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Data Drain on March 09, 2006, 01:06:28 AM
Quote from: Tony

However, in the world of Persona 3 a day does not have 24 hours. In fact, every day at midnight the so-called Shadow Time begins. The lord of this time is the game's villain: A monster by the name of Shadow. While normal human beings don't realize its existence, the protagonist and his friends are apt at moving around in this Shadow Time


Lmao. It's hard to be original these days.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0060519517/sr=8-2/qid=1141884292/ref=pd_bbs_2/002-5193040-4908041?%5Fencoding=UTF8

I want to play it, but we'll probably never see a stateside release for the obvious reasons. =P


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Argilla on March 09, 2006, 05:44:11 AM
I have to agree with Cho on how cliche and crappy DDS's story sounds at first but at least that game caught my eye. I'm not sure but it just doesn't look like a Persona game to me.o_O; If anything, I probably would have thought it was just some random uninteresting game if I didn't see the title slapped on it. Oh wait, I still think it is. D: (Yay, were in SCHOOL!)

It could be the whole anime thing that's quite a turn-off but Persona 2: IS&EP also used anime scenes and I still love those games.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Tony on March 09, 2006, 10:15:37 AM
I really don't know that that whole "suicide" aspect of this title will be a major issue. It's hard to say. If this was Final Fantasy and selling 3 million copies in each territory, it would be more of a problem... but we're talking about a Megaten related game that would, at best, be an underground hit in the US. Considering some of the things about God in Nocturne and DDS2, really nothing was discussed or argued against about it at all.

For one, he obviously doesn't really shoot himself in a normal sense. The video shows that much and obviously shows him doing things afterwards. I've played a few games where there's a possibility of the character killing himself (Indigo Prophecy, Call of the Cthulu, etc) and no one really talked about it at all. Granted, they involved adults, but if the game came out here it would be rated M either way and possibly avoid this.

I mean, honestly, is this really much worse than running over forty cops in GTA? Shooting arms off and slicing corpses up till your heart's content in Soldier of Forture? Shooting people and monsters with shotguns until they explode in countless other games? I honestly don't think so.

There's also the possibility of changing that. I mean, we are talking about the company that made Mark into a black kid with a yellow baseball cap. The release of DQ8 was substantially altered as well; going so far as altering the main character in battle in certain situations. It's not out of the realm of possibility.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Kakizaki on March 09, 2006, 12:44:43 PM
Quote
There's also the possibility of changing that. I mean, we are talking about the company that made Mark into a black kid with a yellow baseball cap. The release of DQ8 was substantially altered as well; going so far as altering the main character in battle in certain situations. It's not out of the realm of possibility.


Sprite alterations are one thing, editing entire animated sequences is another.  I do agree though...Megaten is under the radar and there are other titles with grim content.  Hopefully those guns-to-the-head-shots won't hinder a localization.  I am concerned about the apparent lack of demon negotiations......guns:


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Tony on March 09, 2006, 04:01:25 PM
Quote from: Kakizaki
Sprite alterations are one thing, editing entire animated sequences is another.  I do agree though...Megaten is under the radar and there are other titles with grim content.  Hopefully those guns-to-the-head-shots won't hinder a localization.  I am concerned about the apparent lack of demon negotiations......guns:

Well, for example, within Dragon Quest VIII, the model for the main character when he's fully psyched up is different from the one in Japan. Nintendo itself has changed things such as the fairies in Ocarina of Time between the continents... Atlus is obviously smaller, but I would think that if they were really interested in pushing Megaten related games in the West, they'd either go with it or work with Atlus of Japan for a compromise. I hope, anyway. :updown:


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: nyugvo6 on March 10, 2006, 04:52:50 PM
Oh man. I love it. But that's a strange way to summon...
I think it's too suicidical to be released in europe, or america.
I want that game right now! I'll keep praying atlus usa will release it too.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Kakizaki on March 11, 2006, 01:47:26 AM
Quote from: Tony
Well, for example, within Dragon Quest VIII, the model for the main character when he's fully psyched up is different from the one in Japan. Nintendo itself has changed things such as the fairies in Ocarina of Time between the continents... Atlus is obviously smaller, but I would think that if they were really interested in pushing Megaten related games in the West, they'd either go with it or work with Atlus of Japan for a compromise. I hope, anyway. :updown:


Those examples aren't too tied to storyline and are quite minor compared to editing entire cutscenes -- I was referring to the long sequences depicted in the 17 min Persona 3 movie, not just small battle animations.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Tony on March 11, 2006, 11:17:14 AM
To be honest, I didn't think most of them were that bad in comparison to things out there in both games and anime... most of which haven't really made a major splash in terms of parental/political uprisings. GTA largely only mattered because it sold millions upon millions of copies; same as other titles they rely on like Doom. In terms of the level of this stuff, I suppose it depends on one's perspective. We'll see, I guess.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Kakizaki on March 11, 2006, 03:56:27 PM
I am not disagreeing with you at all.  My point is that the edits you are speaking of are minor compared to something that may be a large component of the story.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: nyugvo6 on March 12, 2006, 10:45:11 AM
can someone upload the song from the video?
(and post the lyrics here?)


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Tony on March 12, 2006, 03:58:50 PM
Quote from: Kakizaki
I am not disagreeing with you at all.  My point is that the edits you are speaking of are minor compared to something that may be a large component of the story.

Oh no, I'm not disagreeing with you either. I'm just talking/discussing/blabbing, really lol. We'll see what happens... My thought on the whole gun thing was largely that it was just supposed to symbolize the "death" of one mask/Persona to give way for another. Maybe something to that effect wouldn't be looked down upon by outside groups as much as right out suicide? Don't ask me lol.

My main point, I guess, is that I'm not really in the habit of playing imports and I don't want to start with this title. I hope it comes here in some form. :)


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Kakizaki on March 12, 2006, 07:52:36 PM
Quote
My thought on the whole gun thing was largely that it was just supposed to symbolize the "death" of one mask/Persona to give way for another.


That is my thought as well.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Tony on March 13, 2006, 02:41:55 PM
The official site is now up for those interested. It has screens, character information and other such things in Japanese. There's also a wallpaper for download.

http://www.atlus.co.jp/cs/game/pstation2/persona3/index.html


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Morzas on March 16, 2006, 11:04:13 PM
OMG, Ownage. Now I have to fix the scratches in my EP CD to get psyched for this!


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Cho on April 26, 2006, 05:40:10 PM
Oh my, it appears Persona 3 is going to be shown by ATLUS USA at E3 (http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2824&Itemid=2).


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Tony on April 27, 2006, 12:44:47 PM
It would be nice, although they mark all of these as "expected". I guess Famitsu is pretty much the best source you'll get on something like this, though.

Not much longer to wait for E3 :). Wish I was able to go this year.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Cho on May 03, 2006, 09:20:25 PM
Ah, and for the record:

Mitsuru's Persona is Penthesilea (http://www.pantheon.org/articles/p/penthesilea.html), Akihiko's Persona is Polydeuces (http://www.pantheon.org/articles/p/polydeuces.html), and Fuuka's is Lucia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Lucy), which I assume refers to the Saint Lucia (notice in Lucia's artwork she has bandages on her throat and over her eyes...).
Speculation:
[SPOILER]In any case, this does not bode well for Fuuka, since Saint Lucia was sentenced to be raped in a whorehouse (although obviously it didn't happen), had her throat slit and her eyes gouged out. Coupled with the fact that she's not a combat character... yeah, I don't think Fuuka's gonna make it through the whole game.[/SPOILER]


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Tony on May 04, 2006, 09:47:29 AM
I came across these names on a Japanese fan site that I stumbled across the other day (trying to find information on a voice actor). I e-mailed the owner about using the information (seems to know English rather well), but I've not heard anything back yet.

Is this actually on the character profile pages? I don't know Japanese, so basically I'm stuck using a program and two or three web-based translators to make any sense out of these things I wind up putting on the site lol.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Cho on May 04, 2006, 01:47:37 PM
The names of their Persona is, however the mythology behind them are not. Which is why Lucia is a source of confusion.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Laharl on May 06, 2006, 04:17:22 PM
Just one more question. I'm too lazy to read all this but I wanna know, is Persona 3 something between Sims and original game???


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Cho on May 06, 2006, 05:01:05 PM
To a certain extent. Its a highschool simulation with RPG sequences. The stronger your ties to the community, the more powerful your Persona is.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Laharl on May 06, 2006, 05:21:59 PM
Черт! Не это ж надо же! А я уж надеялся что будет теретья великая часть!

Well... too bad. I can only prey for russian gamers, they do not like mixes like that.
Sorry for posting in russian-(


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Cho on May 08, 2006, 05:44:15 PM
So, like, its at E3 (http://media.ps2.ign.com/articles/705/705669/img_3577984.html).


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Tony on May 11, 2006, 07:55:34 AM
Ha, I put up the Devil Summoner image on the site... but didn't see that one. I should have come to the boards sooner, because I didn't find out for sure until Gaming-Age had a post about it...

I sent off some questions for their press team on both games, so hopefully they'll get back to me.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: JaggedJim on May 11, 2006, 06:07:42 PM
Persona 3 preview at IGN (http://ps2.ign.com/articles/707/707491p1.html)

It's short, it's not really informative, but hey, at least it's something.

Update: Another, slightly more competent preview over at Gamespot. (http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/rpg/persona3/news.html?sid=6150941&mode=recent)


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Tony on May 12, 2006, 09:09:22 AM
It's somewhat distressing that both of these games were present only in Japanese at the show. It's definitely expected for Persona 3, but I thought they'd at least have a small English demo of DS. In any case, I still see no reason why DS won't get here this year... even though it doesn't have a date attached to it yet.

I e-mailed a bunch of questions about both titles to the press section at Atlus. Hopefully I'll get a response soon. My experiences with them in the past have been pleasant.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: JiuWu on May 13, 2006, 11:39:49 PM
Hi~Tony,I received your mail of yesterday.(13 May )
I'm Taiwanese and speak chinese. :)
Quote from: Tony
I came across these names on a Japanese fan site that I stumbled across the other day (trying to find information on a voice actor). I e-mailed the owner about using the information (seems to know English rather well), but I've not heard anything back yet.

About voice actor:
(=Character Voice=CV←Made-in-Japan English)
■ 岳羽ゆかり(Yukari Takeba)
 CV:豊口めぐみ (http://0rz.net/1b1n8)(とよぐち めぐみ)Megumi Toyoguchi  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megumi_Toyoguchi)
■ 伊織順平(Junpei Iori)
 CV:鳥海浩輔 (http://0rz.net/420FA)(とりうみ こうすけ)Kosuke Toriumi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosuke_Toriumi)
■ 桐条 美鶴(Mitsuru Kirijou)
 CV:田中理恵 (http://0rz.net/a91kG)(たなか りえ)Rie Tanaka (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rie_Tanaka)
■ 真田 明彦(Akihiko Sanada)
 CV:緑川光 (http://0rz.net/f60sQ)(みどりかわ ひかる)Hikaru Midorikawa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hikaru_Midorikawa)
■ 幾月修司(Shuuji Ikutsuki)
 CV:堀秀行 (http://0rz.net/7c1lq)(ほり ひでゆき)Hideyuki Hori (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hideyuki_Hori)
■ 山岸風花(Fuuka Yamagisi)
 CV:能登麻美子 (http://0rz.net/c51lN)(のと まみこ)Mamiko Noto (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mamiko_Noto)

About PERSONA:
Persona 3 - Megaten Wiki (http://www.popanime.net/megami/wiki/index.php?title=Persona_3)

...so I write down Here (http://blog.yam.com/dds/archives/cat_159612.html)
I have check information from Japanese (http://www10.atwiki.jp/persona3/)&Chinese(Taiwan 01 (http://webbbs.gamer.com.tw/brdAnnounce.php?brd=DDS),02 (http://forum1.gamer.com.tw/A.php?bsn=00583)、China (http://bbs.a9vg.com/thread.php?fid=148))

以上 ^_^
ps.My English isn't good enough.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Tony on May 14, 2006, 09:54:44 AM
Your English is just fine. :)

Thanks for getting back to me about this. These online translators are just not enough for me lol. I'm going to be expanding that section more today beyond what I already did to it yesterday. Hopefully Devil Summoner will follow suit today too, but it depends on time I guess.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Cho on May 19, 2006, 03:18:13 PM
Oh, in case you hadn't heard, Atlus thinks they are really funny. If you visit the official website during Shadow Time (Between 12 am to 1 am), then click on the shadows of Akihito, Fuuka, Mitsuru and Junpei (click them until they go away), a new diary section will open up.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Tony on May 19, 2006, 05:48:31 PM
Yeah, I got that impression after popping some text I found into a translator. I'm never up that late anymore, though.

I guess the site is also going to have some sort of game added to it on the first.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Cho on May 19, 2006, 11:45:02 PM
You can just set your computer's clock to 12 am and it'll work.

It could certainly use something.... Storyline and gameplay information? Nah, why put that up?


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: JiuWu on May 24, 2006, 12:00:34 PM
【Famitsu】Scans---Persona3
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=152530633&size=o
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=152531220&size=o


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Tony on May 24, 2006, 03:08:48 PM
I came across these earlier. I'm surprised they keep introducing more and more new characters. Thanks for posting them.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Cho on May 24, 2006, 04:27:38 PM
We've known about Amada and Koromaru for a while now, both were in the original trailer (Jokingly, people asked if the dog would be a Persona user. Crap).

I'm actually hoping the full cast of Persona using allies will be around the same size as P1, actually.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Tony on May 24, 2006, 06:40:26 PM
Well, that's what I get for not really going anywhere for my news on such things haha. I remember the dog, but not so much the other two.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Cho on June 05, 2006, 02:54:31 PM
Oh my, so the official website was updated, and they added on another video in the "Yukari sucks so Main summons Orpheus" series... but this one takes a rather unexpected turn... Er? (http://p3.atlus.co.jp/character/chara01_mv02.html)


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Nuu on June 07, 2006, 06:17:33 PM
Huh.  
It's a shame, I liked Orpheus' design better. :/


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Cho on June 07, 2006, 08:26:06 PM
This week's Famitsu is supposed to reveal a new character. Keep your eyes open for scans~

The characters are Aegis and Muffler. I'll give you one guess who Aegis is. Her Persona is Palladion. She's an anti-shadow weapon. She doesn't quite understand human emotions like love. Oh god I'm going to hate this character.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: JiuWu on June 08, 2006, 04:31:35 PM
【Famitsu】Scans---Persona3
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=163215873&size=o
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=163216475&size=o


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Cho on June 09, 2006, 12:37:55 PM
A new character appears? Some guy is in Akihito's video on the official website.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Tony on June 10, 2006, 10:15:49 AM
I originally found the scans on Jeux-France, as usual... but looking at them I only see stuff about Aegis. Who is this Muffler character?

Also, is there some way to get these delivered elsewhere? I guess I could try eBay or something, but I'd like to be able to do my own clearer scans honestly.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: JiuWu on June 10, 2006, 03:31:37 PM
Quote from: Tony
I originally found the scans on Jeux-France, as usual... but looking at them I only see stuff about Aegis. Who is this Muffler character?


I got these scans from 2CH (http://game9.2ch.net/gamerpg/) ,and use photoshop made it clear.(+small)
Jeux-France also...
I'm very happy "someone" take it away~from my blog :)
I don’t wanna make any trouble….
Do you want "original scans" ?
you can check" here (http://www.gamebrink.com/news/471-Weekly_Famitsu_Report.html) " :)

ps. about 2ch↓
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2channel


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Cho on June 12, 2006, 09:40:58 PM
Unfortunately, Japanese BBS's are not as reliable as I would have liked. The one I was looking at didn't say that Roboko and Muffler were just nicknames, and I didn't exactly look at the character pages of their source (because I got sidetracked by the other information on the website)...

Muffler is the nickname from this site (http://www10.atwiki.jp/persona3/pages/9.html) given to the character standing next to Aegis on the official website's character page. Apparently, the BBS I was looking at was expecting Muffler to be revealed, but he was not.

Also, this (http://plusd.itmedia.co.jp/games/articles/0606/12/news074.html) is somewhat interesting. Its talking about the preorder bonus, which will be a digital media cd. It will include, among other things, some wallpapers, a screensaver, the opening theme song (Burn My Dread. OH ENGRISH), and voice clips... the interesting part is that the last voice actor is listed as "Secret Character" ... what this means is unclear. It could just be that this voice actor is for a character that has yet to be revealed, or it may actually be a secret, optional character. That voice actor was also responsible for the voice acting of the main character in Persona 1's Drama CD, for what its worth.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Tony on June 14, 2006, 04:24:37 PM
Quote from: Cho
Also, this (http://plusd.itmedia.co.jp/games/articles/0606/12/news074.html) is somewhat interesting. Its talking about the preorder bonus, which will be a digital media cd. It will include, among other things, some wallpapers, a screensaver, the opening theme song (Burn My Dread. OH ENGRISH), and voice clips... the interesting part is that the last voice actor is listed as "Secret Character" ... what this means is unclear. It could just be that this voice actor is for a character that has yet to be revealed, or it may actually be a secret, optional character. That voice actor was also responsible for the voice acting of the main character in Persona 1's Drama CD, for what its worth.


Yeah, I came across all of that earlier thanks to blog.yam.com/dds. I never do anything with the voice clips on CDs I get, but I wouldn't mind the wallpapers. I think the page said there was like 16 of them... but that's just from my memory.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Lycanthroat on June 14, 2006, 05:46:47 PM
Although Persona:Revelations and Persona:Eternal Punishment weren't released on PAL, I'm trying hard to get them (no sign of Persona 2 but the original is going on ebay for about £50...which is a lot) but whatever the case, I'm very interested in Persona 3. The story sounds interesting, and it would be nice to play an RPG set in modern Japan - the only game that has ever done that is Lucifer's Call, and it was totally refreshing!


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Tony on June 15, 2006, 09:40:34 AM
Quote from: Lycanthroat
Although Persona:Revelations and Persona:Eternal Punishment weren't released on PAL, I'm trying hard to get them (no sign of Persona 2 but the original is going on ebay for about £50...which is a lot) but whatever the case, I'm very interested in Persona 3. The story sounds interesting, and it would be nice to play an RPG set in modern Japan - the only game that has ever done that is Lucifer's Call, and it was totally refreshing!

Are you looking strictly at the UK eBay? Most US sellers for games I come across are willing to ship worldwide. Persona 2 was fairly common there for a while after that re-printing happened. Maybe it's not anymore though... I've not checked in quite a while.

Hopefully Atlus will work with some company to get a PAL release of the title. I was glad to see Nocturne and DDS came out there, although DDS2 seems to be getting pushed back constantly.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Nuu on June 15, 2006, 04:38:21 PM
Does anyone know a site where I can pre-order the ost?  The only site I know is yesasia, and they don't have that. :/


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Argilla on June 16, 2006, 07:21:00 AM
Quote from: Nuu
Does anyone know a site where I can pre-order the ost?  The only site I know is yesasia, and they don't have that. :/


Here ya go: http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=SVWC-7380


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Nuu on June 16, 2006, 11:56:57 AM
Nice, thank-you!


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: JiuWu on June 16, 2006, 02:47:25 PM
「Burn my dread
:)
→QickTime:http://blog.yam.com/dds/866744b9.3g2(Firefox)
from:2ch (http://game9.2ch.net/gamerpg/)


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Icy Ace on June 17, 2006, 10:55:31 PM
Wow... don't check this place in a while, then when I come back there's a ton of new stuff on the game. o_o

Does anybody know what the online game is like?  I could probably never play with my (extremely) limited Japanese knowledge, but it sounds interesting.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Lycanthroat on June 18, 2006, 05:44:41 PM
Quote from: Tony
Are you looking strictly at the UK eBay? Most US sellers for games I come across are willing to ship worldwide. Persona 2 was fairly common there for a while after that re-printing happened. Maybe it's not anymore though... I've not checked in quite a while.

Hopefully Atlus will work with some company to get a PAL release of the title. I was glad to see Nocturne and DDS came out there, although DDS2 seems to be getting pushed back constantly.

There are quite a few international sellers for Persona 2 (I've just this minute checked) so it's all good....til I get some much needed money anyway. The original is being sold in £ here in Britain as well - I just hope they hold on til I have the funds....

There's no news of DDS2 coming out yet. I guess Atlus will decide whether to release it or not depending on how DDS1 does. It would be pretty silly to only release half a game, but it happened with Xenosaga....

Thankfully, I have both DDS's on American import. Those games rock hard.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Cho on June 23, 2006, 03:27:47 PM
So how about our trio of villains? Takaya is TOTALLY NOT NYARLETHOTEP HONEST.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Tony on June 25, 2006, 05:28:21 PM
Is there any reference to what Gin is carrying in that suitcase? I assume more bombs or something.

And as for the girl, are people in general agreeing upon the name Chidori or Plover? Personally, I prefer the former.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Cho on June 26, 2006, 10:40:38 PM
Its either more bombs, or a computer. For data gathering. And stuff like that.

As far as her name, I've only seen it as Chidori. It isn't written in kanji, so I don't think they intended for people to write her name as "Plover" in English... Is anyone referring to Gin as "Silver"?


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Tony on June 28, 2006, 10:06:56 AM
I've seen it on a couple places as Plover, so I figured I'd bring it up lol. It sounds awful, honestly.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Tony on July 20, 2006, 01:01:22 PM
So the game is out in Japan. Sold about 116,000 copies or so in the first three days it was on sale. Not so bad, really. I think some have a kind of exaggerated idea of how well general Megaten related games sell in Japan anyway... certainly never on FF/DQ levels.

Anyway, did anyone here get an import of it? I have one on the way thanks to a friend, although I know I won't be able to understand it. Still, I guess I can grab some movies and better understand some of the actual gameplay components.

In any case, I've updated D3's preview of the title with help from some posts by nice people at neoGAF that have the game. You can read it here: http://www.digitaldevildb.com/games/persona3/


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Cho on July 20, 2006, 07:44:12 PM
Most of the animated sequences are actually up on Youtube. And yes, they contain many, many spoilers.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Tsunehito on August 04, 2006, 11:22:56 PM
So, roughly fifty hours of game-play are spent inside of a school... Doing school things. ...In a school. Riveting. >.>; Would I buy it? Psh! Psh...yes. Am I going to complain? Of course! Will I habitually cut classes? Definately.

I must say I'm more than a little disappointed that Kaneko wasn't Art Director... -Worships shrine dedicated to him- ...I sacrifice these twelve goats and a chicken to you, Almighty One!

I bet the dog saves them all in the end. And he'll talk. Watch, just watch.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Oni-Kagura on February 21, 2007, 12:08:10 AM
Quote from: Tsunehito
So, roughly fifty hours of game-play are spent inside of a school... Doing school things. ...In a school. Riveting. >.>; Would I buy it? Psh! Psh...yes. Am I going to complain? Of course! Will I habitually cut classes? Definately.


Yeah...but a good part of that is pretty much a dating sim. ^_^

Anyway- I'm really hoping Persona 3 stirs up a little publicity with it's content...maybe get a little more publicity for the series. But I think that's a lost cause, since even the Digital Devil Saga games went overlooked in that regard.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Emilio Morales on March 09, 2007, 09:03:36 PM
Any one knows about the censorship on P3, in north america version?


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Stack Bundles on March 09, 2007, 10:34:36 PM
There will be no censorship. Atlus said so themselves.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Emilio Morales on March 10, 2007, 04:19:35 PM
How long is the game?


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Stack Bundles on March 11, 2007, 04:48:17 AM
I've never played it, so I couldn't tell you. 50 hours or so?


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Tsunehito on March 11, 2007, 01:18:26 PM
+30 with the Fes.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: aerozero on April 14, 2007, 01:44:56 AM
I still find it funny that this game is rated 12+ and up in Japan, when teens are pointing guns to their head to summon Persona. I can't wait until it's out.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Emilio Morales on April 15, 2007, 05:38:29 PM
Okay so there will be no censorship, that is good to hear, but do you know something about if there will be some changes in the music?


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Heat on April 15, 2007, 05:58:16 PM
Quote from: Emilio Morales;2661
do you know something about if there will be some changes in the music?

Why would there be changes?

Though, if any game needs a new OST, it's Persona 3, because the music is terrible. Atlus needs to get themselves a competent in-house composer.

Quote from: aerozero
I still find it funny that this game is rated 12+ and up in Japan, when teens are pointing guns to their head to summon Persona. I can't wait until it's out.

The game isn't advocating suicide, there isn't any gore, so there's no reason for it to have a more strict rating. So, no, the rating really isn't funny at all.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Emilio Morales on April 16, 2007, 05:06:35 PM
Quote from: Heat;2662
Why would there be changes?

Though, if any game needs a new OST, it's Persona 3, because the music is terrible. Atlus needs to get themselves a competent in-house composer.

The game isn't advocating suicide, there isn't any gore, so there's no reason for it to have a more strict rating. So, no, the rating really isn't funny at all.


Be cause when some animes comes from Japan, they get they opening and endings edited. Maybe is not the same point, but it may be!
And Persona 3 has a good OST, maybe not all the tracks are good, but there are some that are just excellent, like the title of the battle, "Mass Destruction", that is a good track.

And if you dont like it, why dont you make some music that you think is better than the music of P3! And give us a piece of it.

And about this! I guess there are a lot of stupid persons in other countries, that really belive what they see in the game, and propably they can shoot themselves.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Heat on April 16, 2007, 06:03:41 PM
Quote from: Emilio Morales;2670
And if you dont like it, why dont you make some music that you think is better than the music of P3! And give us a piece of it.


Because it's not my job, and I don't care enough about Persona 3 to bother.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: aerozero on April 16, 2007, 08:54:33 PM
I doubt they would change the opening music, Atlus didn't change the music for Digital Devil saga and it's not censoring the summoning technique, so chances are extremely low. I do know what you're talking about though, some companies (like Capcom and Sega), often remove Japanese Songs from their openings and replace it with BGMs.  

And if Persona 3 gets an E rating from ESRB, I'm going to start laughing >_> The fact that the release date has been pushed backed to Q3 is not making me laugh though, but if we get FES it'll be worth it.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Heat on April 16, 2007, 09:01:03 PM
Quote from: aerozero;2672
Atlus didn't change the music for Digital Devil saga


What are you talking about? They replaced, I believe it was, "Pray" in the opening with that terrible electrotrash song.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Stack Bundles on April 16, 2007, 10:31:08 PM
Quote from: Heat;2673
What are you talking about? They replaced, I believe it was, "Pray" in the opening with that terrible electrotrash song.


Confirmed. Although I like Etro Anime.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: aerozero on April 17, 2007, 12:28:36 AM
They did? My mistake. :doh:


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Heat on April 17, 2007, 12:37:46 AM
Quote from: Stack Bundles;2676
Confirmed. Although I like Etro Anime.


"Danger" is what a New Order song would sound like if New Order sucked a lot.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Emilio Morales on April 17, 2007, 05:02:44 PM
Quote from: Heat;2671
Because it's not my job, and I don't care enough about Persona 3 to bother.


Since it´s not your job, and I think you dont know something about making music, you should stop saying bad things about the music, since you dont care and dont know about it.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Heat on April 17, 2007, 05:22:31 PM
Quote from: Emilio Morales;2683
Since it´s not your job, and I think you dont know something about making music, you should stop saying bad things about the music, since you dont care and dont know about it.


Actually, I do "know something about making music". Regardless, I have every right to talk negatively about the music, because this is a public forum and there's no rule against it.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Camanche on April 17, 2007, 08:12:05 PM
I thought Danger really fit well in DDS1. Pray's engrish was kind of awkward, unfortunately. I've only heard Burn My Dread from P3 so far but I definitely hope they don't take that out if it's being used in the game.

Aside: Happy birthday Heat! So how's it feel? I'll be hitting that birthday in not long either. heh heh


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Kakizaki on April 17, 2007, 09:46:31 PM
Quote
I'll be hitting that birthday in not long either.


Someone is gonna need a birthday spanking.:devo:


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Heat on April 17, 2007, 10:11:34 PM
Quote from: Camanche;2686
I thought Danger really fit well in DDS1. Pray's engrish was kind of awkward, unfortunately. I've only heard Burn My Dread from P3 so far but I definitely hope they don't take that out if it's being used in the game.


I hated Danger. I'm not saying I liked Pray, either, as the melody was annoying and the vocalist sounded like she had an orange in her mouth. Likewise is the case with Burn My Dread. I don't quite understand why the Japanese will write English lyrics and then use a vocalist who can't actually speak English. At least in Persona 2: Eternal Punishment, they had a vocalist that could speak English (I believe she also wrote the lyrics, if I recall correctly) -- though, I didn't like Change Your Way all that much, either. I much preferred Kimi no Tonari, which is ironic considering I hate J-Pop/J-Rock. Had a nice melody, though.

Quite frankly, I think something like "Sweet Dreams" by the Eurythmics would've been more fitting, but it's probably not "hip" enough. Not long enough, either, I don't think. Still.

Quote from: Camanche
Aside: Happy birthday Heat! So how's it feel? I'll be hitting that birthday in not long either. heh heh

Thanks. It doesn't feel any different than usual.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: aerozero on April 17, 2007, 11:58:27 PM
I liked the opening and ending themes too, especially the Burn My Dread Omake or Remix or something. And Happy Birthday Heat!


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Camanche on April 18, 2007, 08:12:42 AM
Quote from: Kakizaki;2688
Someone is gonna need a birthday spanking.:devo:

Quiet you. That officially stops at 10, or whenever it stops being cool to be spanked as a kid. (Or am I not part of the 'don't ever spank/belt your kids' generation?)

I think Sweet Dreams could fit with the game, but I definitely think they went for the modern feel  Etro Anime can have. I'm at a crossroads, because I do like some modern music, but I still like the older stuff and even some J-rock/pop. XD


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Emilio Morales on April 18, 2007, 07:04:15 PM
Quote from: Heat;2689
I hated Danger. I'm not saying I liked Pray, either, as the melody was annoying and the vocalist sounded like she had an orange in her mouth. Likewise is the case with Burn My Dread. I don't quite understand why the Japanese will write English lyrics and then use a vocalist who can't actually speak English. At least in Persona 2: Eternal Punishment, they had a vocalist that could speak English (I believe she also wrote the lyrics, if I recall correctly) -- though, I didn't like Change Your Way all that much, either. I much preferred Kimi no Tonari, which is ironic considering I hate J-Pop/J-Rock. Had a nice melody, though.

Quite frankly, I think something like "Sweet Dreams" by the Eurythmics would've been more fitting, but it's probably not "hip" enough. Not long enough, either, I don't think. Still.


Thanks. It doesn't feel any different than usual.


Anyway its just your opinion! and I dont care about it.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Heat on April 18, 2007, 07:34:25 PM
Quote from: Emilio Morales;2711
Anyway its just your opinion! and I dont care about it.


Obviously you do, if you keep making such a big deal out of it.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Kakizaki on April 18, 2007, 07:39:18 PM
Quote
Quiet you. That officially stops at 10, or whenever it stops being cool to be spanked as a kid. (Or am I not part of the 'don't ever spank/belt your kids' generation?)


Birthday pinch then?


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: Camanche on April 18, 2007, 10:36:39 PM
Rounded off by a slap? :D

Oi, I'm geting off topic. Um, so P3, yeah.


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: ocinrep on April 19, 2007, 01:20:47 AM
i tried to find Persona 3 - Konamistyle Special Edition in preordrer someone can help me??


Title: Re: Persona 3
Post by: aerozero on April 19, 2007, 05:06:59 PM
If you're talking about the English version, try Gamestop or Eb.