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Title: Revelations: Persona/女神異聞録ペルソナ OST
Post by: DevilRy on February 17, 2008, 04:05:16 PM
Does anyone have/know where I can find the soundtrack to the first Persona?  I've been playing a little bit here and there and finding I quite like the moody, slightly creepy music.  I figured someone around here must of uploaded it somewhere.


Title: Re: Revelations: Persona/女神異聞録ペルソナ OST
Post by: yksehtniycul on February 18, 2008, 12:18:36 AM
I added the soundtrack to a ticket once for five dollars. It was really bad (on its own/not what I vaguely remembered) so I think I trashed it.


Title: Re: Revelations: Persona/女神異聞録ペルソナ OST
Post by: Claudio on February 18, 2008, 07:11:59 AM
Here http://gh.ffshrine.org/soundtracks/6590

there all the soundtracks of persona 3....
If yo go to the mainpage you can find all persona soundtracks


Title: Re: Revelations: Persona/女神異聞録ペルソナ OST
Post by: yksehtniycul on February 18, 2008, 11:24:03 AM
Quote from: Claudio;6775
Here http://gh.ffshrine.org/soundtracks/6590

there all the soundtracks of persona 3....
If yo go to the mainpage you can find all persona soundtracks

I checked just out of fascination and MIP isn't in the lineup (just to save anyone the hassle)

I really can't comprehend thosee who listen to video game soundtracks -- or movie scores for that matter. If you go for the moody feel of Persona's soundtrack, or ever wondered what David Bowie on estrogen would be like -- I'd recommend Kate Bush's work.


Title: Re: Revelations: Persona/女神異聞録ペルソナ OST
Post by: The13thChyld on February 18, 2008, 05:03:06 PM
Quote from: yksehtniycul;6776
I checked just out of fascination and MIP isn't in the lineup (just to save anyone the hassle)


Someone's blind; look again.

http://gh.ffshrine.org/soundtracks/1642

Quote from: yksehtniycul
I really can't comprehend thosee who listen to video game soundtracks -- or movie scores for that matter. If you go for the moody feel of Persona's soundtrack, or ever wondered what David Bowie on estrogen would be like -- I'd recommend Kate Bush's work.


Some game soundtracks fare better as a stand-alone than others. I don't personally see much resemblance between MIP's soundtrack and Kate Bush, sure you aren't just shamelessly plugging a favorite artist~? ;)


Title: Re: Revelations: Persona/女神異聞録ペルソナ OST
Post by: DevilRy on February 18, 2008, 06:55:18 PM
Quote from: yksehtniycul;6776
I checked just out of fascination and MIP isn't in the lineup (just to save anyone the hassle)

I really can't comprehend thosee who listen to video game soundtracks -- or movie scores for that matter. If you go for the moody feel of Persona's soundtrack, or ever wondered what David Bowie on estrogen would be like -- I'd recommend Kate Bush's work.


Did you seriously just recommend Kate Bush??? :updown:

Be running up that road, running up that heeel, be running up that building...

You know she's pretty much famous for making some of the most unlistenable records in music history.


Title: Re: Revelations: Persona/女神異聞録ペルソナ OST
Post by: yksehtniycul on February 19, 2008, 01:35:35 AM
double posted


Title: Re: Revelations: Persona/女神異聞録ペルソナ OST
Post by: yksehtniycul on February 19, 2008, 01:39:46 AM
Quote from: The13thChyld;6784
Someone's blind; look again.

http://gh.ffshrine.org/soundtracks/1642

Yeah, but where did you link to there from? There was a section with every P2 game ever released OSTs, so I looked for Revelations and found nothing there then gave up.

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Some game soundtracks fare better as a stand-alone than others. I don't personally see much resemblance between MIP's soundtrack and Kate Bush, sure you aren't just shamelessly plugging a favorite artist~? ;)

I dunno about favorite artists, but I can't imagine another corpus of work that comes closer to vibe P1 is giving off. If you took Kate Bush and New Order mixed it altogether that would sound a lot like P1 does/feels. Of course you probably won't see the resemblence if all you are only familiar with these acts Mtv singles.


Title: Re: Revelations: Persona/女神異聞録ペルソナ OST
Post by: yksehtniycul on February 19, 2008, 01:52:46 AM
Quote from: DevilRy;6785
Did you seriously just recommend Kate Bush??? :updown:
You know she's pretty much famous for making some of the most unlistenable records in music history.

Compared to what is playing on your myspace page atm? :king:

Unlistenable? Her work is admirably brave -- people's minds come in all shapes and sizes I guess :rollers:

editted: Friendly abuse aside, I've never witnessed negative critique of Bush's work anywhere. There are always people that will say... omg, this looks too much like fine art. But yeah, Bush is like Bowie's twin sister to the last detail. So if you like Bowie, I'm recommending her to anyone, and if you like the Persona theme, you're gonna like Bush's repertoire.


Title: Re: Revelations: Persona/女神異聞録ペルソナ OST
Post by: The13thChyld on February 19, 2008, 02:01:20 AM
Quote from: yksehtniycul;6791
Yeah, but where did you link to there from? There was a section with every P2 game ever released OSTs, so I looked for Revelations and found nothing there then gave up.
(emphasis mine)

Ahem, MIP.
http://gh.ffshrine.org/soundtracks/m

Why would you look under Revelations? Of course there was no US release for the OST.


Title: Re: Revelations: Persona/女神異聞録ペルソナ OST
Post by: yksehtniycul on February 19, 2008, 02:30:40 AM
I dunno, the links I saw on the P page all seemed English name oriented. I wasn't exactly on a mission atm.

The only cool thing for me in the OST was it had printing's of the final Persona cards in it. All except Kali and maybe one other.


Title: Re: Revelations: Persona/女神異聞録ペルソナ OST
Post by: yksehtniycul on February 19, 2008, 04:38:38 AM
Quote from: DevilRy;6785
Did you seriously just recommend Kate Bush??? :updown:

Be running up that road, running up that heeel, be running up that building...

You know she's pretty much famous for making some of the most unlistenable records in music history.

I just realized you haven't a clue what your mouthing / how embarrassed you'll be when this blows over. I'm about to head off on a bent, this forum needs some serious shaking up...

First off, I can't believe we've never had this conversation before. To begin with Running Up That Hill was probably Bush's biggest single commercial success, and by no stretch is it unlistenible, nor does it go anything like your rendition there.

Kate Bush was signed by EMI at the behest of David Gilmore presumably on the back of her impossible vocal talent/training. Like David Bowie, her background was vocals/theatre/dance/pantomime (well scratch dance for Bowie)  

She followed in the foot steps of Pink Floyd and the likes subject matter wise, but as an ardent feminist she manages to be way headier than the Floyd's best pre-sans-Syd flare. Off stage and lyrically it seems almost unavoidable she could've skirted the Thelemite/OTD periphery scene. I don't recall reading about coccaine/heroin addiction plaguing her career, but its always thinly veiled here or there amidst her generally ecstatic compositions / she's payed her Rock'n'roll dues.

editted: Hell here you go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kate_Bush

I really don't know why more people are unfamiliar with Kate's body of work, other than her low profile lifestyle and it would be very difficult to shoe horn any of her work into a television commercial, or generally dance to. Its really theatre music. She has a cult following whose devotion is virtually unprecedented really.

editted: Wikipedia says she just recorded an end credits theme for The Golden Compass.

Finally I'm totally shocked you are unfamiliar with Bush, because stylistically she is probably more akin to David Lynch than any other popular artist. To bo honest, I really wasn't even addressing you when I suggested Bush. As for Lynch, I'd be shocked were he not a real fan/admirer -- Bowie as I recall listed her amongst his top favorite/respected artists. She is so much like Lynch in her uncompromising artistic bravery, and technically I'm sure she is far Lynch's superior when it comes to the raw stuff of artistry. Not even to mention, thematically you can find all of Lynch's favorite's throughout her catologue of work. But the point I'm working on her is only that calling Bush unlistenible is about as cool as falling into that crowd who would decree Lynch unwatchible.  

Furthermore if I had to guess -- I would say the unique direction of Persona (the original) was more inspired by Lynch's work beyond anything else. If nothing else the similarities should be undenidable.


Title: Re: Revelations: Persona/女神異聞録ペルソナ OST
Post by: DevilRy on February 19, 2008, 08:06:26 PM
Erm....

Wow, so you really like Kate Bush, eh?  The British press hasn't been particularly kind to her though and my comment was really more of an aside.  To me Kate Bush is like the pre-Tori Amos, Tori Amos... Nothing I've heard seems to particularly stand out (except of course Running Up That Hill) except for the terrible tracks, which I am more apt to pay attention to and cast judgment on for some reason..

I wish I had more time to get into this, but I have to go to work.  I don't really see the similarity to p1/Kate Bush though.  It does have some vintage synth work in it (my guess is a Jupiter 8 or something similar) but I'd say it has more in common with Kraftwerk or Neu!.  Both bands Bowie and maybe Bush have been accused to stealing from (aesthetic/sound, etc.)


Title: Re: Revelations: Persona/女神異聞録ペルソナ OST
Post by: The13thChyld on February 19, 2008, 09:54:18 PM
I've (mildly) enjoyed what I've heard of her work, which for me, amounts only to the Never For Ever album, and a few tracks outside that. From what little I have heard, I would not agree as to it being similar to MIP's music. If you can name  an album (or a few tracks) that does have a similar feel to MIP, I'll check it out later this week.

As for radio/television, I haven't listened to/watched either in years.


Title: Re: Revelations: Persona/女神異聞録ペルソナ OST
Post by: DevilRy on February 20, 2008, 05:56:57 AM
Just to clear a few things up I couldn't get to earlier (then again I probably shouldn't be hanging out on the office computers so I'll make it brief):

I am somewhat familiar with Kate Bush's work, though not apparently as well as you.  And I also know that Running Up That Hill/Deal With God is her major single which is why I quoted it; kinda a stream-of-consciousness kind of thing.  My comment was referring to the fact that she's been handed all these record deals from major distributors ever since David Gilmour (or whomever) discovered her but she ends up making these fairly whacked out records that make almost no sense musically, seemingly to goad poor criticism.  I do stand by my Tori Amos comparison though.  She's like Amos & Annie Lennox.  That would make a killer sitcom methinks.

I do agree with you about the Lynch comment though.  Persona 1 has Twin Peaks written all over it.  Velvet Room pretty much = Black/White Lodge.  I wonder if Peaks ever made it over to Japan?  If it did I'm sure it was probably serialized around 96, the year that MIP came out over there I believe.  I seem to also recall a kind of X-Filesish show centered around the first Persona as well... Maybe I saw the opening credits on youtube or something?  My memory isn't what it used to be apparently.


Title: Re: Revelations: Persona/女神異聞録ペルソナ OST
Post by: yksehtniycul on February 20, 2008, 06:32:37 AM
Quote from: DevilRy;6800
Erm....

Wow, so you really like Kate Bush, eh?  The British press hasn't been particularly kind to her though and my comment was really more of an aside.  To me Kate Bush is like the pre-Tori Amos, Tori Amos... Nothing I've heard seems to particularly stand out (except of course Running Up That Hill) except for the terrible tracks, which I am more apt to pay attention to and cast judgment on for some reason..

I wish I had more time to get into this, but I have to go to work.  I don't really see the similarity to p1/Kate Bush though.  It does have some vintage synth work in it (my guess is a Jupiter 8 or something similar) but I'd say it has more in common with Kraftwerk or Neu!.  Both bands Bowie and maybe Bush have been accused to stealing from (aesthetic/sound, etc.)

Mostly I'm broadly offended by your insensitive attitude.

So you are taken to reading/living by old press clippings now? I don't think KB has done anything much in almost decades now. Tori Amos has always semed pretty disposable to me... I've never had a friend insist I take her seriously.

I respect Kate cause I think she is a real artist, where as most of even the best pop/commercial musicians in history really amount to hacks/get rich quick/label stooges. I can't remember anything really synthy in Kate Bush's lineup. What I  was refering to is the moody noire/witchy/eclectic/surreal-cum-modern trappings feel that underlies the whole P1 esthetic. You said you were into the moody vibe right? Well the other half of the P1 soundtrack is the upbeat New Order like synth aspect. Bush is more like the Velvet Room / opening setup / etcetera. Its a weird niche I can't think of any successful pop artist filling in broad terms. So imagine Bush/NO fusion if you can stretch your imagination taht far.

As for listening to Kate Bush, it is complicated, so it takes a while to sink in. I dunno, there is a mood I get into from time to time that no other act can quite placate. It is an aquired/sophisticated taste. But definitely not "unlistenible." I've never heard a KB song with a definite hook, so it is really alien territory for most pop oriented people. On the other hand I can't think of a single Bush piece that gets under my skin, so there must not be one.


(http://991.com/newgallery/Kate-Bush-Never-For-Ever-179842.jpg)

Now that is more Megaten than Megaten :)

Quote from: Famous Amos
From the 1980s onward it has became almost standard for individualistic female singer-songwriters to be compared to Bush by the media. She has been noted as an influence on artists as diverse as Tori Amos, Alexz Johnson, [77] Antony and the Johnsons, [78] Lily Allen,[79] Björk,[80] Coldplay,[81] Goldfrapp,[82] PJ Harvey,[83] Darren Hayes,[84] Sarah McLachlan,[85] Sinéad O'Connor[85] Bloc Party,[86] OutKast,[83] KT Tunstall,[87] Katie Melua[26],Muse.[26] and Amy Studt[88]

editted: Wow, her albums did a whole lot better in the UK than the singles:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kate_Bush_discography

I like the singles, but they are generally less interesting and more catchy (aka: not-terrible in Ry's eye)

Running Up That Hill is really only her first major financial success cause it broke into the massive US profit share (the usual formula: even a little recognition in the states trumps a smash success in the UK -- saying "God" a lot might've got her toe in that door)

I think maybe what people don't get about her compositions, is they are really more like mini-plays rather than traditional songs. You're supposed to pretend you're watching a play with your eyes closed more or less, which is really what aloy of classical music is about (only with the added trick of having no lyrics to fly by!)


Title: Re: Revelations: Persona/女神異聞録ペルソナ OST
Post by: yksehtniycul on February 20, 2008, 06:46:03 AM
Quote from: DevilRy;6802
Just to clear a few things up I couldn't get to earlier (then again I probably shouldn't be hanging out on the office computers so I'll make it brief):

I am somewhat familiar with Kate Bush's work, though not apparently as well as you.  And I also know that Running Up That Hill/Deal With God is her major single which is why I quoted it; kinda a stream-of-consciousness kind of thing.  My comment was referring to the fact that she's been handed all these record deals from major distributors ever since David Gilmour (or whomever) discovered her but she ends up making these fairly whacked out records that make almost no sense musically, seemingly to goad poor criticism.  I do stand by my Tori Amos comparison though.  She's like Amos & Annie Lennox.  That would make a killer sitcom methinks.

I do agree with you about the Lynch comment though.  Persona 1 has Twin Peaks written all over it.  Velvet Room pretty much = Black/White Lodge.  I wonder if Peaks ever made it over to Japan?  If it did I'm sure it was probably serialized around 96, the year that MIP came out over there I believe.  I seem to also recall a kind of X-Filesish show centered around the first Persona as well... Maybe I saw the opening credits on youtube or something?  My memory isn't what it used to be apparently.

FWWM was a smash hit in Japan, especially amongst women. You should know that, as the usual financial synopsis is... it was canned/rejected everywhere, but ran forever in Japan and to capacity audiences.

I can definitely understand why critics take to slings and arrows at the mention of KB, and I respect an artist's ability to do what they want under studio/label pressure. Again, she is more like David Lynch in that respect than any other artist. Thematicly she is not at all dissimilar either, though more European perhaps.

You're really too quick to die by the critics sword this time.


Title: Re: Revelations: Persona/女神異聞録ペルソナ OST
Post by: DevilRy on February 20, 2008, 10:54:04 AM
First of all I keep forgetting to thank 13thChyld for posting the MIP (Is it just me or does it feel kind of weird making acronyms from Japanese :stoic:) soundtrack for me, so thanks!

...

And to Michael Gorbachov (I kid I kid ;) ):

Frankly, the lengths you're going to defend her are kind of astounding to me.  I tend not to take people who take music too seriously seriously.  I'm just parroting critics not advocating for them.  Personally I think her music is just kind of um... I dunno.  Adjectives fail me and that is kind of a marker in and of itself.  I mean nothing I've heard really says sort of anything that really catches my ear I guess.  Music is so nebulous its ridiculous though.  Slicing and dicing it just makes everyone involved seem totally pretentious.

Incidentally, most anything I read about old music/bands/press is actually newish journalism since this is standard practice when record companies release reissues.  The rags (NME, Q, and to a lesser extent VICE) tend to be fairly harsh nowadays.  I figure its all part of the climate though, since pop music right now has pretty much imploded upon itself under the weight of its own horrible fashion sense. :)


Title: Re: Revelations: Persona/女神異聞録ペルソナ OST
Post by: yksehtniycul on February 20, 2008, 10:56:50 AM
Am I defending? Nah, I'm just talking to myself...

I was chastising narrow banded criticism of music though.


Title: Re: Revelations: Persona/女神異聞録ペルソナ OST
Post by: DevilRy on February 20, 2008, 11:05:29 AM
BTW the video for Running Up That Hill is hilarious!  I distinctly remember flipping through channels and stumbling upon it on VH1 one fateful day...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BZsXVf6INc


Title: Re: Revelations: Persona/女神異聞録ペルソナ OST
Post by: yksehtniycul on February 20, 2008, 11:07:49 AM
editted too late...

Quote from: yksehtniycul;6811
Am I defending? Nah, I'm just talking to myself...

I was chastising narrow banded criticism of music though.

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BTW the video for Running Up That Hill is hilarious! I distinctly remember flipping through channels and stumbling upon it on VH1 one fateful day...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BZsXVf6INc

Don't ever watch Fine Arts Showcase.

editted: Not this! http://fashowcase.com/index.php

I can't find anything on the Fine Arts Showcase satellite online anymore :(

Aha! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_Arts_Showcase

I gotta figure out how to get that out here.

OMG, its on dishnetwork!

http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/whats_on_dish/programming_packages/channels/index.asp?NetwID=51136

But not on my satellites :(


Title: Re: Revelations: Persona/女神異聞録ペルソナ OST
Post by: DevilRy on February 20, 2008, 11:34:07 AM
When, oh when, did I EVER say Country sucked?  The ridiculous mockery thats been calling itself "Country" since the 90s, most definitely yes.  Classic Country music NEVER.  My parents watched the Grand Old Opry and Lawrence Welk religiously when I was a kid.  Wanda Jackson and Lee Hazlewood are some of my favorite musicians.  You take that back, you! :(


Title: Re: Revelations: Persona/女神異聞録ペルソナ OST
Post by: yksehtniycul on February 20, 2008, 11:46:18 AM
Quote from: DevilRy;6818
When, oh when, did I EVER say Country sucked?  The ridiculous mockery thats been calling itself "Country" since the 90s, most definitely yes.  Classic Country music NEVER.  My parents watched the Grand Old Opry and Lawrence Welk religiously when I was a kid.  Wanda Jackson and Lee Hazlewood are some of my favorite musicians.  You take that back, you! :(


Sorry, you are QFT on that one! You only came around to that stance after I gave you a rough tongue bath.


Title: Re: Revelations: Persona/女神異聞録ペルソナ OST
Post by: DevilRy on February 20, 2008, 11:57:45 AM
I'm reading and rereading your response and I'm not entirely sure if it makes any kind of sense...:stoic:


Title: Re: Revelations: Persona/女神異聞録ペルソナ OST
Post by: yksehtniycul on February 20, 2008, 12:04:22 PM
Quote from: DevilRy;6825
I'm reading and rereading your response and I'm not entirely sure if it makes any kind of sense...:stoic:


In complete denial huh. Don't worry, I'm not calling  you out guns:


Title: Re: Revelations: Persona/女神異聞録ペルソナ OST
Post by: DevilRy on February 20, 2008, 12:25:15 PM
You're speaking in riddles.  :tinfoil:

I challenge you to prove that I ever said in so many words "country music sucks."  You would lose that bet, sir, and I would be about 10$ richer had we decided on a bet to make beforehand.  Your "Country sucks"-allegation is baseless I tell you!


Title: Re: Revelations: Persona/女神異聞録ペルソナ OST
Post by: yksehtniycul on February 20, 2008, 12:46:02 PM
Quote from: DevilRy;6830
You're speaking in riddles.  :tinfoil:

I challenge you to prove that I ever said in so many words "country music sucks."  You would lose that bet, sir, and I would be about 10$ richer had we decided on a bet to make beforehand.  Your "Country sucks"-allegation is baseless I tell you!

Geez... you know I can't recall you using so few words if that is what you're getting at. I'd rather not get into it, and definitely not in public, as we both know your 'never give up' em-mo.


Title: Re: Revelations: Persona/女神異聞録ペルソナ OST
Post by: DevilRy on February 21, 2008, 12:09:58 AM
Secrets and lies!  I would never blaspheme against most traditional American music stylings.  To me though there is a very distinct difference between Kenny Chesney/Billy Ray Cyrus and Hank Williams/Dolly Parton/Loretta Lynn, so maybe something I said in passing to you had been misconstrued.


Title: Re: Revelations: Persona/女神異聞録ペルソナ OST
Post by: DevilRy on February 21, 2008, 03:14:22 AM
OT

This soundtrack rules BTW.  I can sort of see where you're coming from on the Kate Bush front but only because they're using some of the same soundbanks on their synthesizers.  There's a fair amount of Japanese cheese in there as well, the arranged version of the Satomi Tadashii song in particular.  Honestly it does remind me a lot of NEU! 4, Kraftwerk and a lot of early to mid nineties techno.


Title: Re: Revelations: Persona/女神異聞録ペルソナ OST
Post by: yksehtniycul on February 21, 2008, 06:30:48 AM
Quote from: DevilRy;6841
Secrets and lies!  I would never blaspheme against most traditional American music stylings.  To me though there is a very distinct difference between Kenny Chesney/Billy Ray Cyrus and Hank Williams/Dolly Parton/Loretta Lynn, so maybe something I said in passing to you had been misconstrued.


Sure OK, you win. :ssh: