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Title: Is there a way to get FES!
Post by: Emilio Morales on September 03, 2007, 11:28:08 PM
:read: I was thinking and I remember visiting a page on the internet about Persona 2 Tsumi. In this page the owners, I think, were gathering "votes" to maybe let them know ATLUS about the importance of Localize Persona 2 Tsumi, and of that showing a lot of interest of the fans about this game. And then I was wondering, if maybe we can do the same, but with FES, maybe we can gather "votes" of the people in this Forum and in other Megaten releated Forums, and maybe show ATLUS about the big concern from the fans of getting FES.

That´s just a way to put it, but maybe there are other solutions for this issue, if anyone of you want to apport something to the cause, it will be better. What we need to do, is to convince ATLUS about importing Persona 3 FES.

We maybe cause some impact on ATLUS, maybe... Who knows, but will not know until we try. So, who´s in?:axeman: :axeman:


Title: Re: Is there a way to get FES!
Post by: Avalon on September 03, 2007, 11:31:57 PM
:rollers:

Yeah! I remember how that helped Innocent Sin get localized.

Seriously, buy the game... send them emails and encourage others to do the same. That's about the only thing we can do. I really believe they have already decided, but I'll continue to bug them about it until I get a definite no.


Title: Re: Is there a way to get FES!
Post by: Enid on September 04, 2007, 01:38:49 AM
That is pretty much the only thing we can do....spreading the word to others.


Title: Re: Is there a way to get FES!
Post by: Kryuzei on September 04, 2007, 04:47:31 AM
Nyu. . ? Where can I signed? 0.o;
I want Fes really much T_T Especially because of the new story.


Title: Re: Is there a way to get FES!
Post by: nightsavior on September 04, 2007, 06:33:24 AM
I'd support the venture. Normally I hate paying twice for what is essentially the same game with a few added features but I would buy FES without needing much coaxing. However honestly I don't think that Atlus is going to fold. P3 has done better then expected so far but face the facts it is not going to sell as many copies as say an FF game or a World of War-crack expansion.


Title: Re: Is there a way to get FES!
Post by: yksehtniycul on September 04, 2007, 08:53:54 AM
Quote from: Avalon;4961
:rollers:

Yeah! I remember how that helped Innocent Sin get localized.

Seriously, buy the game... send them emails and encourage others to do the same. That's about the only thing we can do. I really believe they have already decided, but I'll continue to bug them about it until I get a definite no.


Was Innocent Sin localized?


Title: Re: Is there a way to get FES!
Post by: Emilio Morales on September 04, 2007, 09:56:55 AM
Okay now where do we start? :read:

I guess we need to put things in order before we do anything, we need to gather all the Megaten forums on the net, where we are going to pass the voice, and arreange us in groups to visit these pages. What I guess we need is a signature like the one that has Enid, I guess that one has a cool message. If we want to impress ATLUS with our "project" we need to tell everyone about it. So I think we need to do things like this:

1) Search all Megaten forums on the web. (in english)
2) Post all the forums here.
3) Divide ourselves in groups to visit these forums.
4) Create a common signature, that has a good slogan.
5) Arreange what are we going to post on the other forums.
6) Decide who will be in charge on sending the e-mails to ATLUS.


If someone wants to give me another ideas, I´ll appreciate it. If we put enough persistence maybe we can accomplish our goal. Is for a good cause. And all the people who is interested in this project, let me know, so that we can start with it. Please dont do anything until we have our plan well structured.

"NO REGRETS, BECAUSE WE DONT HAVE ANYTHING TO LOSE."


Title: Re: Is there a way to get FES!
Post by: Enid on September 04, 2007, 10:32:43 AM
Quote from: nightsavior;4966
I'd support the venture. Normally I hate paying twice for what is essentially the same game with a few added features but I would buy FES without needing much coaxing. However honestly I don't think that Atlus is going to fold. P3 has done better then expected so far but face the facts it is not going to sell as many copies as say an FF game or a World of War-crack expansion.


I would agree with you on that.I've already stumbled upon the summary for Aegis and the ending for FES as it is,but I'm still in favor of still seeing it come here.Not only as a fan,as to just have this game added to my,or anybody else's,P3 merchandise/collection.

But also the little extras that can only be seen in FES.


Title: Re: Is there a way to get FES!
Post by: Kryuzei on September 05, 2007, 04:57:59 AM
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1) Search all Megaten forums on the web. (in english)
This is a Hard one IMO. I've got here myself because of my friend ^^; Without her/him, I never stumbled across Megaten forums T_T
Not sure I can help, but I want to join. .
FES no tame ni !!!


Title: Re: Is there a way to get FES!
Post by: Emilio Morales on September 05, 2007, 08:54:45 AM
This is a good way to start, I think this forum is really common, and maybe a lot of people in here know it:

http://www.popanime.net/megami/phpBB2/index.php

And this one, I dont think so, but wathever:

http://gamers.eurogamer.net/groups.php?group_id=244

Quote from: Kryuzei;4978
This is a Hard one IMO. I've got here myself because of my friend ^^; Without her/him, I never stumbled across Megaten forums T_T
Not sure I can help, but I want to join. .
FES no tame ni !!!


Thanks! Okay what you can do is, register yourself on the first forum I post, that´s a  good way to start! ^^


Title: Re: Is there a way to get FES!
Post by: Enid on September 05, 2007, 11:29:26 AM
Quote from: Emilio Morales;4983



Thanks! Okay what you can do is, register yourself on the first forum I post, that´s a  good way to start! ^^


Already saw someone do that on another forum.

They are from the Atlus forum,and they are going around posting,"go to the Atlus forum,in the suggestion box tell them you want FES to come here",it was something like that.

But that's the first time I've seen that person,I don't think they are from this forum.


Title: Re: Is there a way to get FES!
Post by: Emilio Morales on September 05, 2007, 12:27:16 PM
I´m going to check, but I think I´m gonna go to the Megaten Heaven forum and start with the "movement". "THE MORE, THE MERRIER"


Title: Re: Is there a way to get FES!
Post by: rafanetz on September 05, 2007, 01:37:39 PM
I think first we should tell people about P3 and make sure everyone support it, buy it. It is not time yet to think about FES, because if Atlus agree to sell FES in US, a lot of people will wait to buy it instead of buy P3 now.
I believe that six months from now would be the perfect time to start asking Atlus about FES. Now they will simply deny it.


Title: Re: Is there a way to get FES!
Post by: Emilio Morales on September 05, 2007, 02:12:18 PM
Yes you have a point in there, there have been a little time since ATLUS brought us Persona 3, and now all of a sudden ask them for FES, I guess they´re going to say: "What? They´re asking for a game, since we give our all to bring them Persona 3, all what have been trhough, just looking the appropiate actors, the good translation, and now this?" (I really dont know...) And maybe imagine how long we need to wait, cause they need to translate the game, record the voices, edit some things. I guess rafanetz is just right, we have been asking it for it to sooner, we need to wait a little longer, and then began to ask about it.

And we need to remember that ATLUS not just work with the Megaten series, they have other projects to work on.

But in my opinion we need to put some pression, low, but a little bit of pression on them.


Title: Re: Is there a way to get FES!
Post by: Kryuzei on September 06, 2007, 05:13:17 AM
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I guess rafanetz is just right, we have been asking it for it to sooner, we need to wait a little longer, and then began to ask about it.

And we need to remember that ATLUS not just work with the Megaten series, they have other projects to work on.

But in my opinion we need to put some pression, low, but a little bit of pression on them.
We need to do it from now. But still, don't give Atlus too much pressure, or it'll be they may simply denied it ^^;
I agree, we need to give them a bit of pressure, show them some enthusiams(OMG, did I spell it right?) so they may actually think it from now, before PS2 died.


Title: Re: Is there a way to get FES!
Post by: Emilio Morales on September 06, 2007, 06:48:00 AM
Quote from: Kryuzei;4997
before PS2 died.


Damn it hurts to admit it but yes, but I dont want the PS2 to die. Well what can we do is just going to the other forums and tell them to put their votes on the ATLUS message board, and we keep posting as much as possible, but with good reasons (not just only a "please").


Title: Re: Is there a way to get FES!
Post by: nightsavior on September 07, 2007, 10:40:51 PM
Well I think they'd be flattered we want to pay for FES even after getting the original. However the "original P3" has to do  well before Atlus even considers it. So far from sites I visited the game is picking up momentum but the fan-base is still smaller then those clamoring for another FF game. Sad considering I think P3 beats the crap out of FF 12 and Kingdom hearts 2 without even breaking  a sweat.


Title: Re: Is there a way to get FES!
Post by: Emilio Morales on September 07, 2007, 11:17:58 PM
Quote from: nightsavior;5021
Well I think they'd be flattered we want to pay for FES even after getting the original. However the "original P3" has to do  well before Atlus even considers it. So far from sites I visited the game is picking up momentum but the fan-base is still smaller then those clamoring for another FF game. Sad considering I think P3 beats the crap out of FF 12 and Kingdom hearts 2 without even breaking  a sweat.


Yes you´re right, since FF series began to fall, megaten can take the lead, in the rpg field.


Title: Re: Is there a way to get FES!
Post by: Neao on September 08, 2007, 11:46:47 AM
I highly doubt megaten games would be the one to 'take the lead' for RPGs if Final Fantasies dwindled in popularity. Which it really hasn't.


Title: Re: Is there a way to get FES!
Post by: Kryuzei on September 08, 2007, 11:20:31 PM
Nay, just wait for it. Megaten will take the leads, or at least NIS games will.
FF just sucks nowadays. It's not as addicitive as Persona or NIS games any longer. . . If only ATLUS realized this. .


Title: Re: Is there a way to get FES!
Post by: Emilio Morales on September 09, 2007, 12:04:14 AM
Quote from: Kryuzei;5027
Nay, just wait for it. Megaten will take the leads, or at least NIS games will.
FF just sucks nowadays. It's not as addicitive as Persona or NIS games any longer. . . If only ATLUS realized this. .


Yeah! Maybe that´s what they need to hear. Maybe if we encourage ATLUS about the good job they have did with megaten games, and Persona 2, lately, I´m sure they´re gonna bring FES (probably).


Title: Re: Is there a way to get FES!
Post by: Neao on September 09, 2007, 11:39:08 AM
Final Fantasy, regardless of your guys' opinions on the games, already has a vice grip on the JRPG/RPG market, it doesn't matter about quality now. Final Fantasy is probably the only RPG people that don't normally play RPGs think of when they hear the acronym RPG. There is no way that anyone can get this kind of hold on the market as final fantasy does, they gained popularity way back, in the 'RPG era' when these games were much more popular. And since Megaten games aren't that well known, I can only see Megaten getting popular in the JRPG market, and that's not that big of a market anyway. I can't see Megaten getting that popular, as the time for grabbing a huge audience with this type of gaming is gone. You'd have to already be an established series or company to be able to be a big name RPG developer. Most of the popular games are FPS or Action games, with variations. I mean, P3 already brought most of the JRPG players attention, more than before. Though it isn't that big, it's still something. But with the 'one print run' thing Atlus has got going on, I don't see how long they can even keep majority of the JRPG fans they got hooked with P3. Even though popularity wasn't even a problem before. So as long as they get enough money to make games, I won't complain.


Title: Re: Is there a way to get FES!
Post by: Emilio Morales on September 09, 2007, 12:05:38 PM
Yes you´re right, FF series have been localized since the first FF, and that was when all the people began to love this game, and of course it good stories and playabilities. And Megaten games, in the other hand, stay in Japan, and all the non-Japanese players dont know to much of this series. But with Persona 3, I guess people began to get interest in Megaten series, and you can look that, because since P3 has been anounced this forum and other as well began to have a lot of new members. And maybe some of those members just looking info about P3, and other looking to increase their knowledge about Megaten.


Title: Re: Is there a way to get FES!
Post by: nightsavior on September 09, 2007, 01:55:30 PM
It is a sad truth. I liked FF12 a lot but besides for the awesome environments and good game play the characters were very under-developed. I think SE  knows it doesn't even have to give 100% anymore to make the fans scream and line up in droves to buy whatever lack-luster game they put out. SE is strong in visuals but it has gone down-hill with substance.

I'd really like P3 to make Mega Ten more popular to the general audience. However I also face the reality that beating SE is near impossible  due to the fact they play under-handed and cater to whatever popular fads are "big"  with the gaming public be they good or bad. Atlus was always the "rebel" that did it's own thing  and cared about quality a lot more then marketing and localizing. If it finally got awesome marketing and more localizing to go along with its awesome games maybe it could flex a bit more muscle. Making more copies of each game may not hurt either.


Title: Re: Is there a way to get FES!
Post by: Neao on September 09, 2007, 02:12:49 PM
Yeah, I can see Atlus getting bigger, but only in the RPG scene. Maybe like one of those other series that are relatively well known, like the Tales series. Or some other game name that I'm forgetting that has a small community that is bigger than normal niche games.


Title: Re: Is there a way to get FES!
Post by: Kryuzei on September 10, 2007, 04:27:36 AM
Hm. .You do have a point there. Considering your post before, then perhaps releasing Fes here could give them some problem. But then, Is persona really that unpopular in US ? I don't know, since I don't live there.
Well, if Atlus did want to release FES , then they should observe the gamers first. Do they want it or not, and how many are they. There's no hurt to release it in Limited Edition right? I mean, just add some translation, voice acting and Aegis version. . I don't think its too much for a budget.
It's not the problem with FF series. Some of the people there don't even played it anymore. Sometimes they're just buy the games, and dump it (Like me? 0.o;) .
I think RPG's marketing are pretty fairly than before since XII .