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Title: Persona 3 Hint Thread
Post by: Tony on August 15, 2007, 06:40:03 PM
I figured this might be a good idea. Other people can add their hints as they please, but obviously if it's even remotely spoiler-ish (I think I was kind of overzealous in this post, nothing I spoilered is anywhere near important or involves the plot lol), please use the spoiler tags. You can apply them with the black block with the white S inside.

These all involve gaining points in Charm, Courage or Academics.

Tip 1: Academics takes the longest of the three normal stats to raise. If you're not tired, I would suggest studying every night that is realistically possible. It will make a difference.

Tip 2: Always blow the 1,000 yen at Naganaki Shine's offering box. It might seem like a lot early on, but money will not be a major as the game progresses. The more you put in, the higher the chance you will have of getting a point in Academics. This is nice because it's the only way to raise Academics (beyond staying up in class when asked) that won't take up part of your day. I always went there first after school and then went to do what I wanted.

I always do the fortune as well. [SPOILER]You can potentially lose 5,000 yen (which is very rare), but you can also win 10,000 yen, get a lucky charm and have your status go to Great (which seems to be slightly more common). Usually I wind up with more than I spent, though. It's up to you.[/SPOILER]

Tip 3: If you are sick, see the Nurse. [SPOILER]If you drink his potion you won't feel any better, but you will gain some points in courage. This doesn't take up a section of your day either, so it's a nice trade off if you find yourself tired.[/SPOILER]

Tip 4: Going to the bathroom can potentially raise your status from Bad to Good or Good to Great.

Tip 5: Anything you do at Iwatodai or Port Island in terms of raising stats seems to raise them faster than if you do things at Paulownia Mall. I would assume this is because you can only go to Iwatodai or Port Island during the day, while Paulownia is available during the day and evening.

Tip 6: If you don't have plans for Sunday , you'll start off in your room. Check out the TV to see what they're selling. Sometimes there's some good deals.


Title: Re: Persona 3 Hint Thread
Post by: Enid on August 15, 2007, 10:22:24 PM
Read the tips,I have to say they are very helpful...thanks for sharing.


Title: Re: Persona 3 Hint Thread
Post by: aerozero on August 15, 2007, 10:55:59 PM
Yeah, thanks.


Title: Re: Persona 3 Hint Thread
Post by: Doublehex on August 17, 2007, 03:04:01 PM
Quote
I always do the fortune as well. You can potentially lose 5,000 yen (which is very rare), but you can also win 10,000 yen, get a lucky charm and have your status go to Great (which seems to be slightly more common). Usually I wind up with more than I spent, though. It's up to you.


What do you mean by the fortune? Are you referring to the fortune teller at the Mall? If so, I never get anything...just the same exact dialog over and over again.


Title: Re: Persona 3 Hint Thread
Post by: aerozero on August 17, 2007, 05:06:28 PM
He's referring to the one by the offering box at the shrine, it's located to the right.


Title: Re: Persona 3 Hint Thread
Post by: Doublehex on August 18, 2007, 01:42:24 AM
Yes, I realized that almost immediately after I typed out that post. :doh:


Title: Re: Persona 3 Hint Thread
Post by: Enid on August 25, 2007, 10:47:35 PM
In the 5th block,you can find Homunculus in the rare chests.

Well atleast for me,I've found rare chests twice in one floor.Later on,found another rare chest,had another Homunculus.

I hope this helps others that are looking for those...I don't really get enough gems to trade for them at the mall.


Title: Re: Persona 3 Hint Thread
Post by: nightsavior on August 26, 2007, 04:23:57 PM
I finally beat the game. Don't worry no plot spoilers. You can beat the end boss without the extreme Personas like Messiah or Thanatos but it can be a  bit tricky once he begins using  the "midnight queen" extreme damage/status-screwed ability. Have  the papal robe  equipped on your human players and be sure to use charmdi on your  healer Yukari or she'll likely restore the boss back up to full health if she becomes charmed. Magic mirrors can guard against some of the mass effects like poison. He will go through all major Arcana (each arcana corresponds with its strengths and weaknesses) until he reaches death (Or It rather.) Try preserving  your magic until the last form and do not attack when he puts up the moonlight gown. If you strike him when shielded it will usually automatically kill you. (Have everyone on standby during this time and simply use rush mode when he lowers his defenses.)


Break down

Helpful Items.

Magic Mirrors
Soma
Bead Chains
Balms of life
Dis-charm
Dis-Poison
Chewing soul
Items to dispel rage
Items to dispel fear


Helpful Personas to have

1.Cybele (powerful light attack,healing,and ressurection ability.)
2.Surt (Powerful fire spells especially Ragnarok)

Other things.

1. If it goes bad have Fukka ready with Oracle. Try Reserving this until you are fighting the death Arcana.

2. When all your people are healed pretty well use "rush mode" to get in as many attacks as you can. You can cancel rush mode at any time to use Personas. Do not  attack when end boss raises its shield.(He'll only do this as the death Arcana)

3. Mitsuru's max ice attacks do a lot of damage to most arcana forms.

4. Junpei's "well of life" bonus helps a lot.

5. Yukari is great for back up healing just be sure to get to her right away if she is charmed otherwise she can bring the death arcana  back up to full health.

6. You'll want to buy the best weapons from the police station. They're a lot of money but worth it. Before that check your inventory because sometimes you'll find some of those weapons in Tartarus. Be sure to eventually get the specialized armor for Aegis (the  strongest is at 8) and the best dog armor. (I believe  it is the lunar dog suit. Better armors might be in Tartarus too.)

7. A bonus area unlocks near the end. It is another door on the first floor of Tartarus. The monsters can be ridiculous however it is a good place to raise levels and get big rewards. Have Homonuculses around because many of these enemies will try instant death  spells. Save after each battle in the "special zone" after  requesting Fukka to warp you back to safety. Eventually your effort and success will accumulate by being careful. Each time you return both SP and HP are  restored so you can  go at it again at your leisure.

8. To beat the end boss at least be up in the 80's when levels are concerned. Be sure you've helped  all your friends level up too.


Title: Re: Persona 3 Hint Thread
Post by: Neao on August 26, 2007, 05:06:08 PM
Quote from: nightsavior;4824

Be sure you've helped  all your friends level up too.


I hate Ken. I refuse to level him.

:P


Title: Re: Persona 3 Hint Thread
Post by: nightsavior on August 26, 2007, 06:57:55 PM
Heh heh. Ken's ok but no, he's not on my favorites list. I leveled everyone because I was paranoid and didn't know exactly who would be best for the last battle. Ken "can" do a lot of good physical damage if he is properly equipped though. In the "special area" you can battle Elizabeth for bragging rights but it is a one on one match between you and her. I didn't do that part this time  around but I hear during the fight many "rules" from DDS apply. It's not a pivotal story battle (Elizabeth will not die melodramatically) but if you can  spar with her and get her down that's pretty impressive. She's on the 10th floor of the special zone.


Title: Re: Persona 3 Hint Thread
Post by: Neao on August 26, 2007, 09:04:23 PM
Many rules from DDS apply? Max stats and max levels? Man I hate those kind of fights. Both from DDS 1 and 2. I never fought the demi-fiend or Satan. I just did everything else except for them. The requirements to fight them are insane and not worth it. Well, at least for me.


Title: Re: Persona 3 Hint Thread
Post by: nightsavior on August 26, 2007, 09:41:39 PM
Well you'll level up  a lot just fighting the creatures  in the "special zone". When I first went there those with me leveled up after every battle until I got into  the  mid 70's. Just be aware many of them have instant death moves and  high HP. Having  decent equipment is a must for the bonus area  in Tatarus.

Maybe hardcore gamers will take on Elizabeth but I'm not quite that dedicated. At around level 80 something I was doing pretty good and only lost to the end boss twice before defeating him the third time. The strategies I posted earlier  in this thread worked for me  (even without the "super" Personas) but having Messiah likely makes the end conflict less cumbersome.


Title: Re: Persona 3 Hint Thread
Post by: aerozero on August 26, 2007, 10:43:22 PM
Does anything happen after you beat Elizabeth?


Title: Re: Persona 3 Hint Thread
Post by: nightsavior on August 27, 2007, 02:59:38 AM
One you get  a lot of Yen and experience. I don't know  exactly what she says to you after being defeated. I used the special area to level up but never faced her directly. A faq is what says she is a hidden boss. The hard special zone only has 10 floors but when you get to Elizabeth you fight her by yourself with no aid from allies. Whether or not she is harder then Nyx is debatable. If  you are die-hard go for it! I just wanted to beat the damn game to see what happened. No spoilers but I will say the "true ending" was worth seeing.


Title: Re: Persona 3 Hint Thread
Post by: Neao on August 27, 2007, 08:50:54 AM
How do you get the 'true-ending' again? (Without spoilers if possible:P)


Title: Re: Persona 3 Hint Thread
Post by: ShinByakki on August 27, 2007, 08:51:26 AM
Just a side-note, do NOT bring any allies to fight Elizabeth with you, as she will instantly kill everyone in one hit.


Title: Re: Persona 3 Hint Thread
Post by: Enid on August 27, 2007, 10:56:15 AM
Only thing that I've heard so far...she is the next Hitoshura from DDS.

That alone gives you a hint as to how hard she is.


Title: Re: Persona 3 Hint Thread
Post by: nightsavior on August 27, 2007, 01:04:46 PM
It's easy to get the "true ending". You'll be presented with a very pivotal choice near the end. The correct response is "not killing' your friend and letting time drag on another month with your memories intact. You can save before-hand  and kill your friend if you want to see the  "bad ending".  I refer to the character  as "your friend" to not give anything away.


Title: Re: Persona 3 Hint Thread
Post by: Enid on August 27, 2007, 03:42:45 PM
Yeah,that is one way to put it without spoiling it.

It kind of makes it obvious what is the best choice...living on and trying to win,or just give up and forget everything you've done up to this point.


Title: Re: Persona 3 Hint Thread
Post by: Lord Stevero Kennedy on September 10, 2007, 02:19:58 PM
elizabeth...

I don't know if this will be a spoiler but...

Lucifer and Satan's combo skill only does half her hp at lvl 99...
protaganist, not the two personas...)

so...


Title: Re: Persona 3 Hint Thread
Post by: Neao on September 10, 2007, 06:11:39 PM
Well, if the skill isn't kept in check, go in with an egg and do it twice. There you go, she's dead.


Title: Re: Persona 3 Hint Thread
Post by: Kryuzei on September 12, 2007, 05:42:07 AM
Btw, why is the S.Link didn't get transferred ?
I got Magician Commu max in my last playthrough, but why didn't I get it in the 2nd one ?
I just got at 4/23 btw.


Title: Re: Persona 3 Hint Thread
Post by: Neao on September 12, 2007, 05:00:59 PM
Your S-links don't transfer over when you start a new game. But, if you fused a high end persona from mastering that S-link, you can get them from the compendium.


Title: Re: Persona 3 Hint Thread
Post by: Kryuzei on September 13, 2007, 10:15:11 AM
. .
Guess there's no other way than to cheat. . >_>; I'll work hard until the end of January. .


Title: Re: Persona 3 Hint Thread
Post by: amnefarius on September 26, 2007, 09:31:37 PM
Quote from: Neao;5067
Well, if the skill isn't kept in check, go in with an egg and do it twice. There you go, she's dead.


She's like Hitoshura, remember. Any Persona with block/repel/absorb causes her to megidoloan (9999 damage) you into the ground.


Title: Re: Persona 3 Hint Thread
Post by: Neao on September 27, 2007, 06:07:05 PM
Not egg as in defense. Egg as in Precious Egg. Go in, use Armaggedon, use a precious egg and Armaggedon again. I'm wondering if that works, and if it does, then that really just sucks.;p


Title: Re: Persona 3 Hint Thread
Post by: amnefarius on September 27, 2007, 08:44:27 PM
Lemme show you how it happens.

First Turn: Armageddon
Elizabeth: Megidoloan *kills player, player revives with Sacrificial Idol*
Second Turn: Precious Egg
Elizabeth: Megioloan *kills player*


Title: Re: Persona 3 Hint Thread
Post by: Neao on September 28, 2007, 04:55:48 PM
Ok, good. I heard somewhere that Elizabeth dies with 2 Armageddons. Guess that person was lying.


Title: Re: Persona 3 Hint Thread
Post by: Lord Stevero Kennedy on October 03, 2007, 06:44:52 AM
Well, I tried with a persona without any of the resistances that get me megidolaon-ed, however, she still took me out in 2-3 attacks. I don't have time to heal AND attack, so what i would need is i guess a max stat persona, or a way to knock her down every turn, so i can heal. :/
On another Forum, i was told to use Infinity, but i still got slaughtered .
I might just give up, since i don't know what the omnipotent orb does, anyway

Even if i doesn't use Megi, She still did like, 300 per hit, and she goes twice in one turn...
however, thi sacrificial idol sounds good, except, if the persona has a repel/absorb/nullify, it won't save anyone


Title: Re: Persona 3 Hint Thread
Post by: DemonAtmaNizzo on October 03, 2007, 04:54:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp5-dkzWSH0

Here's a video of someone beating Elizabeth in the Jap version. Seems like he saves Armageddon for a final attack.


Title: Re: Persona 3 Hint Thread
Post by: Lugn on October 03, 2007, 09:35:56 PM
To defeat Elizabeth:

-You need to be Lv.99
-Equip the Armor and Shoes of Light from Messiah(Resist/Evade Magic).
-The persona item "Divine Pillar" from Alilat.
-A persona with High Counter and a lot of resistance(No Null/Repel/Drain though).
-Vishnu and Atanta for the Mix Raid "Infinity".
-Lucifer and Satan to finish her off with Mix Raid "Armageddon".

Elizabeth is able to attack twice per turn and has 20,000 HP.

Her Attack Pattern:

0 Turn(after summoning Masakudos on the 8th turn) - Uses Physical attacks/Nulls all,except Almighty

1st Turn - Surt(uses fire)/absorb fire,receives greater damage from Ice attacks

2nd Turn - Jack Frost(uses ice)/absorbs ice,receives greater dmg from fire

3rd Turn - Thor(uses elec)/absorbs elec,receives greater dmg from wind

4th Turn - Cuu Chulainn(uses wind)/absorbs wind,receives greater dmg from elec.

5th Turn - Metatron(uses hama)/null all,except almighty

6th Turn - Alice(uses mudo)/null all,except almighty

7th Turn - Nebiros(uses ailments)/null all,except almighty

8th Turn - Masakudos(Almighty)/null all,except almighty

Special - Pixie(Healing and Almighty)/null all,except almighty
Summoned if you bring team members to the fight,reduce her HP by half(one time only),and every turn while her HP is below 9999.

Special - Maskudos(see above)
Summoned if you switched to a persona with Null/Repel/Drain.

To beat her you need to lower her HP by almost half,then wait for High Counter to work(to knock her HP below 9999).After that cast Armageddon to finish her off.

Useful persona for the fight:

Attis + Loki + Seth = Atropos

Loki + Yata(sun) = Laksmi

Black Frost +Samael = Hanuman

Bishamon(sp?) + Asura(Endure and Unshaken Will) + Skadi = Throne

Throne + Michael + Alilat = Cybele

Cybele + Trumpeter + Anubis = Vishnu

Atropos(lv.59 Resist Elec) + Laksmi(lv.53 Resist Fire) = Siegfried(lv.58 High Counter)

Siegfried(Resist Elec,Resist Fire and High Counter) + Vishnu(Endure and Unshaken Will) + Hanuman(lv.54 Resist Slash and Resist Ice) = Kikuri-hime(Resist Slash,Ice,Fire,Elec and Endure)

Kikuri-hime + Messiah + Siegfried(resummon) = Chi You

He has 5 available skill slots and 12 skills to choice from(I gave him High Counter,Unshaken Will,Resist Elec,Resist Fire and Resist Ice).